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Post by jaber1 on Aug 28, 2005 13:51:40 GMT -8
My conscience is my ultimate source Jaber. I follow the light cast by my conscience and my ability to reason to the best of my capability, it is all that I can do. Are you seriously attempting to use the old testament to justify your support for those who would not only justify and resort to the murder of innocents but even celebrate it? A clear conscience is as good a source as any as long as you realise that the other guy's conscience is as clear as yours. No Cam, nothing so melodramatic. That, to me, is how far back the crap goes - over 4,000 years at least, probably closer to 5,000
If the Old Testament [KJA version] is even a reasonably accurate portrayal of Jewish History - as recorded by themselves - they are far from being innocent or blameless.
Have read those Books? Even God got so pissed off with them He was going to wipe them out on more than occasion and only pleading by Moses saved those who eventually survived.
Then, instead saying thank you and living in peace and tranquility, they continued to rail against Him so He eventually blew them away with the Diaspora scattering them all over the world. In one way, this at least served to keep the faith alive.
I don't know, but I get the feeling from time to time that while 1948 was expedient for Britain, I really wonder if that was the allotted time in God's timetable for Israel to be re-formed for the final time.
If it was then is He still pissed at them?
If it was not then the present state will collapse one way or another, but only God knows when.
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Post by stratagosv on Aug 28, 2005 15:56:44 GMT -8
You guys sure like to claim victory before it's even half time!
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Post by 101ABN on Aug 28, 2005 16:00:45 GMT -8
You guys sure like to claim victory before it's even half time! Eh? ? ?
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Post by jaber1 on Aug 29, 2005 6:55:04 GMT -8
You guys sure like to claim victory before it's even half time! Strat, using the quotation function would help me to understand that to which you refer. Are you suggesting that the Jew/Gentile mess in what is called Israel today will go on for another 4-5,000 years?
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