The Communist Agenda-1963

[101ABN]

Apr 1, 2010 16:02:41 GMT -8 Sailor said:

I think they've got all the important ones covered. We are so hosed.

And they've done it incrementally. so slowly not many noticed.

[exorcist]

That's the difference between a Marxist and a Socialist.

One is an honest Revolutionary, the other is a deceptive Evolutionary.

[peterd]

To tell you the truth, there is no honesty in the Marxist and socialist camp. You will hear many slogans and promises, but at the end the ordinary Joe will pay the price. Don't kid yourself, in both systems there have and have not's. There is not such thing as honest revolutionary. Revolutionaries have agenda and they will strive forward even if that means dead bodies of their own kind. Cost, justify the means.

[warrior1972]

1963 was almost half a century ago.

The Soviet Union is gone. Russia is still a country to be reckoned with, but it is not Communist.


China? China's got a Communist government, all right, but even they had to junk their Communist economic system. It's a Chinese state-directed capitalist system that's responsible for their economy, now. It's Chinese CAPITALISM that's the primary Chinese threat in 2011.


Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam are all three firmly Third World basket cases dependent on foreign aid from the rest of the world, (including us in some cases).


So, who is directing the Communist threat in the United States these days that is supposedly so close to the goals that they were supposedly striving for when JFK was President and the Cold War wasn't very cold at all?


And why the hell is it that anybody to the Left of the John Birch Society is immediately branded a Communist by those to the Right of the John Birch Society?


Communism is not destroying America.

WE are destroying America.

[101ABN]

"Communism is not destroying America.

WE are destroying America. "

Right.

Nothing to see here.

Please keep moving.

[peterd]

In general Communist agenda was to totally destroy capitalism. Current US left wing platform is trying to do just that.

[warrior1972]

Aug 30, 2011 9:49:45 GMT -8 peterd said:

In general Communist agenda was to totally destroy capitalism. Current US left wing platform is trying to do just that.

Specifics, please?

[peterd]

Warrior, you can start from here: cpusa.org/

Meet the Needs of Working, Unemployed and Farm Families
- Raise the minimum wage to $12 an hour.
-Unemployment insurance for all workers.
- Moratorium on farm foreclosures
- Labor law reform to remove barriers to workers who want to join a union.
- No privatization of Social Security. Increase benefits.
- Universal prescription drug coverage administered by Medicare. Universal health care system.
- Restore social safety net. Welfare reform that includes job training, supports and living wages.
- Full funding for equal, quality, bi-lingual public education. No vouchers.

Make Corporate Giants Pay
- Repeal tax cuts to the rich and corporations.
- Close corporate tax loopholes.
- Restitution to workers' pensions.
- Strong regulation of financial industry.
- Regulation and public ownership of utilities
- Prosecute corporate polluters. Public works program to clean our air, water and land
- Aid to cities and states. Federally funded infrastructure repair and social service programs

Foreign Policy for Peace and Justice
- No to war with Iraq - End military interventions
- Repeal Fast Track and NAFTA, stop Free Trade Area of the Americas(FTAA). No secrecy.
- Save Salt II Agreements, reject Star Wars and Nuclear Posture Review
-Abolish nuclear weapons
- End military interventions.
- Cut military budget and fund human needs.

Defend Democracy and Civil Rights
- End racial profiling.
- Repeal the death penalty.
- Enforce civil rights laws and affirmative action.
- Repeal USA Patriot Act.
- Legalization and protection of immigrant>rights.
- Public financing of elections. Overall election law reform including Instant Runoff Voting.
- Youth and student bill of rights. Guarantee youth's right to earn,learn and live.

[dustdevil28]

Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam are all three firmly Third World basket cases dependent on foreign aid from the rest of the world, (including us in some cases).

You're right on the first two. As for Vietnam, it did suffer huge economic set backs following the war for about ten years or so. Then they wised up and ushered in the "Doi Moi" reforms.

From wiki:

In 1986, the Sixth National Congress of the Communist Party introduced socialist-oriented market economic reforms as part of the Ðổi Mới reform program. Private ownership was encouraged in industries, commerce and agriculture.[89] Thanks largely to these reforms, Vietnam achieved around 8% annual GDP growth between 1990 to 1997, and the economy continued to grow at an annual rate of around 7% from 2000 to 2005, making Vietnam one of the world's fastest growing economies. Growth remained strong even in the face of the late-2000s global recession, holding at 6.8% in 2010, but Vietnam's year-on-year inflation rate hit 11.8% in December 2010, according to a GSO estimate. The Vietnamese dong was devalued three times in 2010 alone.[90]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam#Economy

So they pretty much followed the same line as the Chinese, embrace capitalism so long as it is state driven capitalism.

Another thing to be aware of is their current spat with China over the Spratly islands, a spat which is driving them to seek a better relationship with the US.

-DD

[Sailor]

An understanding of the Marxist mantra:

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” should be understood to mean “The State will take from each according to his ability; the State will give to each according to his its needs.”

“Needs and abilities” are, of course, subjective. So the operative statement may be reduced to “the State shall take, the State shall give” which itself has led to massive abuses, loss of freedoms, torture and loss of life totaling in the millions.

The above understanding gained from:
www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/gun-laws-and-the-fools-of-chelm-by-david-mamet.html

[peterd]

Apr 1, 2010 16:02:41 GMT -8 Sailor said:

I think they've got all the important ones covered. We are so hosed.

Someways we are hosed, however there power in the people unless you are the sheep. People need to stand up for what they believe.

[warrior1972]

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