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Post by stratagosv on Sept 26, 2005 22:35:01 GMT -8
You're saying: couldn't name anything on the right that amounts to the same support the left shows Howard Dean and Michael Moore.
Are you kidding me? If Dean was a rep, he'd have a medal.
get it?
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Post by Far Rider on Sept 26, 2005 22:38:49 GMT -8
You know, you really have to try to miss the point by that much.
I'll type real slow so even your stupid ass can understand it:
THE - LUNATIC - FRINGE - HAS - TAKEN - OVER - YOUR - CAUSE.
It's their agenda, now.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Sept 26, 2005 22:39:12 GMT -8
Do you get that Dean was elected to his position? His position is proof that the left activly supports the fringe on their side. Where on the right do you see a elected person in a similar position?
You don't. Get it?
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Post by stratagosv on Sept 26, 2005 22:42:19 GMT -8
... so Dean... has been marching in protests carrying signs that say: America must be destroyed!"
... after trying to be president?
Get it?
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Post by dustdevil28 on Sept 26, 2005 22:47:43 GMT -8
Do you remember the comment about Republicans being just a bunch of "conservative white christians."
His mock drug snorting, this guy is a imbicile. I can't beleive the Democrats would do something to openly slap half the country across the face as put him in his position. Putting him there shows that they care more appealing to the far left for support Vs. showing support for moderation and cooperative govt.
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Post by stratagosv on Sept 26, 2005 22:58:00 GMT -8
Did he say republicans or the GOP? That would make a difference... either way I wouln't agree, but it would make a difference.
He is getting money, every time he says something dumb like that, he gets a hellova lot of money. I don't like deans approach,but I said before:
SHOW ME A PICTURE WITH DEAN marching with a sign saying "america must be destroyed" since it is your contention they're all the same.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Sept 26, 2005 23:40:32 GMT -8
Where is my contention that they're all the same?
Your the one that came out and said that these people are loyal to their country. The same people that sat Moore next to a former President, the same people that put that idiot at the chairmanship (BTW, they needed Dean to get money? I somehow doubt they were that hard up for cash.)
You want to contend that that Conservatives are somehow worse, I'm saying prove it. I don't have to prove anything about Dean or Moore, those have been accepted, you however need to back up how in the world the right is worse by comparrison.
This is my last post for the day so do take your time and I'll check back tomorrow.
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Post by stratagosv on Sept 26, 2005 23:48:15 GMT -8
Where is my contention that they're all the same?
Your the one that came out and said that these people are loyal to their country. The same people that sat Moore next to a former President, the same people that put that idiot at the chairmanship (BTW, they needed Dean to get money? I somehow doubt they were that hard up for cash.)
HAHA I suggest you go back and read the prior posts, you'll laugh at what you just typed too!
In fact your whole post is a tangent reread the earlier posts
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Post by dustdevil28 on Sept 27, 2005 13:02:38 GMT -8
Well I see you failed and were not able to come up with some examples of the right embracing their extremists.
I honestly thought this was a simple task that even you could do, but alas Tink reared his head and the best response you could come up is some dumb "haha, I can't understand what you write, haha."
If this is all you've got than I'm satisfied that I've proven my point and there is no need to go any further.
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Post by stratagosv on Sept 27, 2005 14:55:51 GMT -8
BB, why do I try with you? I give you advice, instead of smearing your mistakes all over your face I politely tell you to go back and reread the prior posts, yet you didn't take my advice, therefore your mistake is still there.
And until I post this you'll still think you've achieved some kind of "victory"
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Post by MARIO on Sept 27, 2005 15:35:02 GMT -8
Not how it works 101, you can't pick and choose what company shares a related goal of yours, you must know that. Sorry, but the THC libs have defended commies and American-haters repeatedly. It was Michael Moore sitting next to Jimmy "the Peanut farmer" Carter at the Dumbocratic convention. |
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Post by juvenal on Sept 27, 2005 16:19:54 GMT -8
Stratagos--
I have no intention of arguing with you over whether the various factions within the left are "all the same" or not.
You say you and others like you are honest, loyal Americans who are for peace. Ok. Good. I take you at your word.
But don't you think that some of these people who are aligning themselves with the "peace" cause and showing up at the rallies are failing to live up to those standards?
When Michael Moore is given a place of honor at a Democratic Convention, does that mean that the people calling the shots at that convention disapprove of what he says and does?
When Democrats elect a party leader, do they intentionally select someone who goes against what the majority of them believe? Or that they don't like his leadership style?
When loyal Americans support a peace movement, and when they go to these rallies, do they carry signs that say "America must be destroyed for there to be any hope of peace?"
We can disagree on what Michael Moore, or Howard Dean really stand for. But I don't think you can honestly say that these two don't represent the predominant attitude in the Democratic Party right now.
And, being the loyal and peace-loving American that you are, I would hope that you would make some sort of effort to keep people who are neither loyal nor peaceful out of your movement. I mean, since these people don't represent your views at all.
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Post by stratagosv on Sept 27, 2005 18:18:15 GMT -8
Not how it works 101, you can't pick and choose what company shares a related goal of yours, you must know that. Sorry, but the THC libs have defended commies and American-haters repeatedly. It was Michael Moore sitting next to Jimmy "the Peanut farmer" Carter at the Dumbocratic convention. And it was RUMSFELD shaking hands with saddam, which is worse? Besides you're in group think again, I'm telling you it's different for regular people. |
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Post by stratagosv on Sept 27, 2005 18:22:19 GMT -8
Stratagos-- I have no intention of arguing with you over whether the various factions within the left are "all the same" or not. You say you and others like you are honest, loyal Americans who are for peace. Ok. Good. I take you at your word. But don't you think that some of these people who are aligning themselves with the "peace" cause and showing up at the rallies are failing to live up to those standards? When Michael Moore is given a place of honor at a Democratic Convention, does that mean that the people calling the shots at that convention disapprove of what he says and does? When Democrats elect a party leader, do they intentionally select someone who goes against what the majority of them believe? Or that they don't like his leadership style? When loyal Americans support a peace movement, and when they go to these rallies, do they carry signs that say "America must be destroyed for there to be any hope of peace?" We can disagree on what Michael Moore, or Howard Dean really stand for. But I don't think you can honestly say that these two don't represent the predominant attitude in the Democratic Party right now. And, being the loyal and peace-loving American that you are, I would hope that you would make some sort of effort to keep people who are neither loyal nor peaceful out of your movement. I mean, since these people don't represent your views at all. J, the democratic party has been hijacked by the people with the money, same as the GOP, it is not my job to defend the DNC no matter how sure Mario and others think it is. Unfortunatelly there are goals that are shared between decent people and crazies. The KKK is for the MINUTEMEN project, just because one is for the minutemen doesn't make them racists does it? Same thing applies in todays politics, and I don't think these guys understand this. |
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Post by juvenal on Sept 27, 2005 18:48:11 GMT -8
Well, David Duke also wholeheartedly lent his support to Cindy Sheehan. And those two absolutely do share the same views about Israel. www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/26/opinion/main797471.shtmlAnd I can tell you that IF it is true that the KKK has supported the Minuteman project (and I can find no evidence of this whatsoever) the Minutemen would repudiate the clan immediately. Notably, what I also can't find is any repudiation on the part of Cindy Sheehan or her handlers of David Duke. I don't hold you responsible for the people you say have hijacked the Democratic Party--Unless you're a Democrat. I don't hold you responsible for some of the disloyal hatemongerers who are a part of the "peace" movement, or for their violent ideologies--Unless you're part of the peace movement. If your movement really does consist of loyal, nonradical people, take responsibility for repudiating anti-American radicals. That's what's so troubling about this "peace" movement: Nobody seems willing to do that. |
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