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Post by cameron on Jun 11, 2005 3:19:56 GMT -8
The Future of Blogging? -- In the year 2013, The New York Times has gone offline. The Fourth Estate’s fortunes have wanted. What happened to the news? And what it EPIC? www.lightover.com/epic/EPIC 2014 |
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Post by Husky23 on Jun 11, 2005 4:30:38 GMT -8
Plugging Google Cameron?  Although the presentation seems plausable - I think there will still be a market for paper media. I mean, how you gunna pick up your dog poop? ;D |
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Post by cameron on Jun 11, 2005 4:51:48 GMT -8
Plugging Google Cameron? Although the presentation seems plausable - I think there will still be a market for paper media. I mean, how you gunna pick up your dog poop? ;D Just like I always have, the drive through at taco smell. |
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Post by LorSpi on Jun 11, 2005 4:52:49 GMT -8
The overviews of problems can be excellent, as a real investigative piece. It's the headlining that is so aggravating - the reporting without background.
I think we are better served by having professional journalists who learn their beat well. IT would be great to see some sort of standards organization. Like schools, doctors, engineers and other professions have. Folks like Geraldo Rivera, for instances, couldn't call them selves "journalists" if disbarred from this group.
Without the paper alternative, then folks will have to pay through the nose for access to certain internet sites. It is already in progress - and certain papers are beginning to charges for access to their sites.
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Post by Husky23 on Jun 11, 2005 4:57:28 GMT -8
The overviews of problems can be excellent, as a real investigative piece. It's the headlining that is so aggravating - the reporting without background. I think we are better served by having professional journalists who learn their beat well. IT would be great to see some sort of standards organization. Like schools, doctors, engineers and other professions have. Folks like Geraldo Rivera, for instances, couldn't call them selves "journalists" if disbarred from this group. Without the paper alternative, then folks will have to pay through the nose for access to certain internet sites. It is already in progress - and certain papers are beginning to charges for access to their sites. Fair enough - but there is something to be said for those, using the term very loosely -- freelance internat 'journalists'. Yes alot of garbage, but they also keep check the professional journalists and media organizations that have an agenda. don't you think? |
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Post by cameron on Jun 11, 2005 5:08:55 GMT -8
Hey guys I get more of my news from the net than from anywhere else. I learned how to judge and have bookmarks for hundreds of good places to get the news. When something interests me I can even get more depth. The internet is a great resource for news junkies.
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Post by Husky23 on Jun 11, 2005 5:21:22 GMT -8
Hey guys I get more of my news from the net than from anywhere else. I learned how to judge and have bookmarks for hundreds of good places to get the news. When something interests me I can't even get more depth. The internet is a great resource for news junkies. I get a most of mine from it also |
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 11, 2005 5:44:11 GMT -8
Hey guys I get more of my news from the net than from anywhere else. I learned how to judge and have bookmarks for hundreds of good places to get the news. When something interests me I can't even get more depth. The internet is a great resource for news junkies. I get a most of mine from it also Yada-yada... Me too. |
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Post by LorSpi on Jun 11, 2005 6:06:59 GMT -8
Lots of stuff that doesn't get covered, by our media or most internet sites I see. A for instances counterterror.typepad.com/ scroll down to the Lodi story and the guy is complaining about the Visa Waiver program. He is just clueless about the program. One - it is very restrictive as too members - Argentina was kicked off the list and Israel doesn't make it because of 1 % point on fraud cases. If problems from any participating countries rise (It has to be less than 3% total, I believe) then that country will be automatically dumped. Nothing political about it. At present it cannot be negotiated. Poland and Ukraine tried to negotiate their inclusion based on their participation in the coalition in Iraq. They failed. Numbers not there. Now folks who enter on that program can stay in the US only 90 days and cannot change their status. Ever. Regular B2 visas - folks can stay legally up until 6 months - and then can apply for status change and stay even longer. I went on a bit - but the point is that blogger is simply ignorant of the program he is complaining about and down right wrong about the consequences for those who abuse the program. And he didn't bother to get the basics. Nor is he subject to an editor, ombudsman or any other fact checker. I LOVE having immediate access to primary sources but analyzing their data takes real work. And I do get most of my info off the web. But I have my list of newspapers that really hit the nail on the head for certain reporting. Stories that rarely get picked up elsewhere. |
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 11, 2005 21:45:36 GMT -8
Plugging Google Cameron? Although the presentation seems plausable - I think there will still be a market for paper media. I mean, how you gunna pick up your dog poop? ;D Simple, don't have a dog. ;D |
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 11, 2005 21:48:27 GMT -8
Most of mine does too. Or I find info from mags or papers and get more from the web on it, sometimes. Lor, you must have quite a mailing list of periodicals, change of address must suck. |
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Post by LorSpi on Jun 12, 2005 5:36:55 GMT -8
Most of mine does too. Or I find info from mags or papers and get more from the web on it, sometimes. Lor, you must have quite a mailing list of periodicals, change of address must suck. Keeping good bookmarks is hard. I also save articles but you know what? It's just like the papers that clutter my living area and desk (when I have one). I hardly ever go back to them. I get hardly any periodicals now because I have access to them through work. That plus my online routine. The bad part - when I'm in another country, I have to read the local press every day. And the new laws passed that might be pertinent. Not a summary - the original.  Change of address sucks big time. And you know folks out there do NOT like APOs. Between having a border Texas address (when I was in Mexico) and an APO, I had about a third of my accounts shut down for no apparent reason. The reason was the addresses. Now that I have an Arlington VA address, they're loving me again. Not only multiple solicitations but multiple from the same company. I haven't changed anything but address. And I ain't been here a year! I keep clogging up my shredder.  |
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Post by beorn on Jun 22, 2005 11:59:20 GMT -8
Plugging Google Cameron? Although the presentation seems plausable - I think there will still be a market for paper media. I mean, how you gunna pick up your dog poop? ;D Without newspapers roses would be difficult to grow. They like the paper and the inks. |
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 22, 2005 19:38:52 GMT -8
Can't wrap fish in a web page...  |
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Post by ReformedLiberal on Jun 22, 2005 19:58:54 GMT -8
Plugging Google Cameron? Although the presentation seems plausable - I think there will still be a market for paper media. I mean, how you gunna pick up your dog poop? ;D Without newspapers roses would be difficult to grow. They like the paper and the inks. They like horse manure too. Funny that even a plant can't tell the difference between the two.  |
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