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Post by cameron on Mar 19, 2006 16:01:19 GMT -8
Most things are made of different carbon atoms it's just a matter of how they are put to gether and no, if one atom is out of place does not mean the whole thing will fail to work. You're going to have to forgive me because science is my weakest subject by far. There are some objects in the world that are not made of carbon though, correct? Non-organic items? Those would still be impossible to make, correct? Or could this machine still make them? I'll look at the link later today. No they would be able to make non carbon based molecules as well. If you can manufacture at the molecular level you can make any substance you can think of from plastics to metals.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Mar 19, 2006 16:24:30 GMT -8
I guess I'm just still a little confused. A laptop computer is made out of more than just carbon atoms, correct? So where do those other atoms come from? And how do you make "pure" atoms that you can just feed into the machine? Can humans just make new atoms? I thought you couldn't make matter out of nothing? I get the whole process once the atoms are in the machine but I don't understand the actual part of feeding "pure" atoms into the machine. I'm not doubting that this would work, I'm simply trying to understand how it works. You can try explaining it to me but I'll probably just end up more confused
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Post by cameron on Mar 19, 2006 17:32:53 GMT -8
I guess I'm just still a little confused. A laptop computer is made out of more than just carbon atoms, correct? So where do those other atoms come from? And how do you make "pure" atoms that you can just feed into the machine? Can humans just make new atoms? I thought you couldn't make matter out of nothing? I get the whole process once the atoms are in the machine but I don't understand the actual part of feeding "pure" atoms into the machine. I'm not doubting that this would work, I'm simply trying to understand how it works. You can try explaining it to me but I'll probably just end up more confused I'll be honest I don't really understand the science involved either. I do know serious scientists are in fact working right now on making this thing a reality and that there is no theoretical reason why they can't do it. I've seen other videos of things they have in fact built like gears and motors that would be used to fabricate the first replicator. I'll see if I can post some of those. The atoms would be in solution it is chemistry some bonds are stronger than other bonds and you can use that to separate out those atoms you want. Check out the web site I linked to and just look around they have a lot of fascinating stuff. Here is a link on Molecular Manufacturing www.foresight.org/nano/whatismm.html
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Post by FightingFalcon on Mar 19, 2006 17:54:18 GMT -8
Thanks for the links - I'll look over them tomorrow.
I don't doubt that something like this will be a reality some day - I just really hope that they aren't used for evil purposes.
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Post by bounce on Mar 19, 2006 19:14:06 GMT -8
I just really hope that they aren't used for evil purposes. You're kidding me, right? "Hoping" is one thing and it's good to "HOPE" nice things. Reality is a little different though as I'm sure you're well aware.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Mar 20, 2006 3:42:47 GMT -8
Fine - let's operate in the realm of reality...
These machines will be used for evil purposes.
Better?
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Post by bounce on Mar 20, 2006 5:44:52 GMT -8
Fine - let's operate in the realm of reality... These machines will be used for evil purposes. Better? Well, human nature is a funny thing. Some people live to eat potato chips on the couch every day while they watch Oprah and Jerry Springer. Others work like hell to find anything they can use (legal or illegal) to gain an advantage over the competition. I don't care what it is, if it's humanly possible, someone WILL do it. The term "Evil" is interesting too. It's kind of in the mind of the beholder. I consider a group of people who would sell this country down the fucking river if it helped them gain a few political points EVIL. Packer says Ann Coulter is one "Evil Bitch." Shit, I love her! It's America hating idiots like Kos that are evil. We consider radical Islam Evil and the feeling is mutual. Some people consider abortion evil and others consider a ban on abortion evil. Same-same for Doctor assisted suicide and capital punishment. The word "Evil" is like the word "Rich." Everyone knows what the words mean, but everyone's definition is different from everyone else's. If it's humanly possible, someone will do it and SOMEONE ELSE will consider it "Evil."
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Post by bounce on Mar 20, 2006 5:53:32 GMT -8
One other thing...
I spent a few weeks regularly going through some of the Leftist blogs. I searched through a shit-load of them. I studied what they said in detail.
I'm telling you that many of the Whacko Left extremists are "hate filled," "dark" and "evil" at heart.
They have nothing but hate and rage in their hearts for capitalism (America in general) and Bush specifically.
I consider that entire mentality so distasteful it qualifies as "evil" in my mind and capitalism, America and Bush qualify as "evil" in their's.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Mar 20, 2006 6:00:58 GMT -8
I'm not saying that these machines in and of themselves are wrong - they can be used for great purposes, e.g. making unlimited amounts of food, medicine, etc.
But I also know better than that. Eventually they will be used to make NBC weapons, conventional weapons, etc.
To me, evil is self-explanatory. But thanks to liberals, we have to "understand" our enemy and realize where they are coming from. I'm sorry, but evil is not that hard to detect. You can tell when someone is just an evil human being....
I don't need someone to tell me that Hitler was evil. It's pretty much just there.
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