BPA75
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Post by BPA75 on Jul 16, 2005 7:05:42 GMT -8
If it turns out that Rove is really innocent of leaking the name? What if there is another source?
Are those of you who are currently screaming for his head going to own up to your being wrong?
Or are you gonna disappear and not accept responsibility for your words?
I, personally, am waiting on the entire train to come in before I pass judgment on him. If he is culpable, then he deserves to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. If not, then he deserves a lot of apologies.
I asked this on THC and no one will answer it! Is it that difficult or are they afraid to have to live up to an expectation. (which is hard for a liberal, I know)
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Post by toejam on Jul 16, 2005 8:46:22 GMT -8
It's because they won't even entertain the idea that Rove is innocent. Think about it - George Bush has won every recount that has taken place in Florida, but they still say he stole the '00 election, and some of the nuttier ones say he stole the '04 election.
They don't give a shit - they just keep telling the same lies over and over again. A report just came out saying that there was no prisoner abuse in Gitmo, but they will keep saying it anyway.
They just keep telling the same lies over and over again. They're still lying about Vietnam.
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BPA75
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Post by BPA75 on Jul 16, 2005 8:58:40 GMT -8
But it is so obvious what they are doing. Do they actually think they are fooling anyone?!
The thing I have noticed about libs from THC,(not the only thing) besides that the GOP and Bush are responsible for everything bad is that they always jump the gun on everything.
First report is good enough for them and they are all over it. Remember the "looting" in Baghdad? It turned out to be completely overblown, but they ran with it and never admitted they were wrong.
Or Rathergate and the TANG story. Again, they took it and ran. Damned waiting to see if it was ACTUALLY correct or not, it is fact and must be repeated!
I've never seen such a group of desperate people before and it is distressing that they can be so unnerved just because they are not running anything for the first time in forever. I can remember when I was younger and they controlled pretty much everything except Reagan. They weren't nearly as hostile and angry as they are now. They just did WHAT they wanted and you never heard any of this BS from them about the minority needing a say like you do now.
It is utterly amazing to me the duplicity of these people.
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Post by tits on Jul 16, 2005 9:26:49 GMT -8
the Neo-libs will not swerve until they hit it and are bloodied or the deer leaps to safety.
I see the same mindset between the Neo-Lib hunting for "Bush's Head" as the Islamic Suicide Bombers. The truth has nothing to do with the efforts to force their faith on those about them.
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Post by toejam on Jul 16, 2005 9:54:04 GMT -8
I've never seen such a group of desperate people before and it is distressing that they can be so unnerved just because they are not running anything for the first time in forever. I can remember when I was younger and they controlled pretty much everything except Reagan. They weren't nearly as hostile and angry as they are now. Many years ago I was between jobs and paying the bills by refinishing, repairing, and building furniture. I was out in the shop one day, looking for something to listen to and stumbled across Rush Limbaugh. After a while I said "Thank you!" because he was saying what I had been thinking but never said. It just wasn't done back then. That was when the whole thing started to come unraveled for them. They weren't used to being questioned and if you dared to do it they called you all kinds of names, like "redneck". Now it's "neocon", "freeper", and so on. They have come up with some better arguments since then but the real problem is that they think both politics and economics are a zero sum game. If you are making money somebody else isn't. If you win it's because you cheated. If the guys in charge don't have their jersey on they can't do anything right. There is no such proposition as "everybody wins". They are perpetual malcontents. Michael Medved plays a song that goes something like "whatever it is I'm against it" and he assigns this to modern day libs. I'll take it a step further - as nihilistic as they were back in the 60's they are even more so now - no tradition can stand as far as they are concerned if for no other reason than because it's a tradition. The younger ones don't even know what they are saying or why they are saying it - they have been brainwashed in government schools. |
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Post by gop on Jul 16, 2005 9:57:54 GMT -8
exactly mike...hit the nail right on the head
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Post by gop on Jul 16, 2005 10:01:01 GMT -8
and this is why i have stayed away from this it is an investigation..i'll wait til all is said and done before i put my 2 cents in
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Post by 101ABN on Jul 16, 2005 10:04:53 GMT -8
Also it's just come home to me why they haven't been able to move on from the 2000 election.
It's because they haven't been able to move on from the '60s. And they perpetuate and instruct their (and our) young people in the '60s mindset as though the rest of the world around them hasn't changed since then.
This explains their fascination with Che Guevara, their "Kumbayaa" approach to international terrorism, and the need they've had since 'Shock and Awe" plus one to convince us that Iraq = Vietnam.
Amazing!
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Post by toejam on Jul 16, 2005 10:10:22 GMT -8
101, I have some audio files about "The Three Big Lies About The Vietnam War" I'd like to make available to you. It's about three hours long. I feared I had lost the files then ran across them this morning. THIS time I made a CD of it.
I'll upload it to a server and post them here. Very informative. It's the most information I have seen in one place.
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Post by tits on Jul 17, 2005 11:49:24 GMT -8
I heard something of that title years ago but ... it could be the blueprint for all Neo-Lib attacks of the Right.
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Post by toejam on Jul 17, 2005 14:10:13 GMT -8
I heard something of that title years ago but ... it could be the blueprint for all Neo-Lib attacks of the Right. Don't worry, they're not part of the neo-lib attack. I'll upload them to the server tomorrow at work over their cable connection. Keep watching for the links. |
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Post by 101ABN on Jul 17, 2005 16:52:03 GMT -8
101, I have some audio files about "The Three Big Lies About The Vietnam War" I'd like to make available to you. It's about three hours long. I feared I had lost the files then ran across them this morning. THIS time I made a CD of it. I'll upload it to a server and post them here. Very informative. It's the most information I have seen in one place. Sounds great, Toe I'll be watching for them. |
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Post by toejam on Jul 18, 2005 7:51:45 GMT -8
Okay guys the "Lies About Vietnam" mp3 addresses are in C&C. I would appreciate it if you all would download them and burn to CD or whatever you are going to do with them so I can free up the space on the servers. They're all in order - about a half hour each.
Let me know what you think of them.
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