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Post by americanpride on Sept 4, 2005 18:40:04 GMT -8
All this talk, talk, talk about how America is the victim of this and that.
Let's actually DO something about it.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Sept 4, 2005 18:45:41 GMT -8
Sorry Chris, my days as a "radical" are over. I've gotta concentrate on becoming a 2nd Lt. now  . I've heard so many stories of really stupid shit getting people kicked out of ROTC and I don't want to be one of those stories. It just ain't worth it. When I become CINCCENTCOM we can talk again |
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Post by americanpride on Sept 4, 2005 18:47:30 GMT -8
Well - I'll be there soon. Last year before I contract. So - drop me a line when I'm CINC of NORTHCOM. |
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Post by Husky23 on Sept 4, 2005 18:50:05 GMT -8
Sorry Chris, my days as a "radical" are over. I've gotta concentrate on becoming a 2nd Lt. now . I've heard so many stories of really stupid shit getting people kicked out of ROTC and I don't want to be one of those stories. It just ain't worth it. When I become CINCCENTCOM we can talk again Interesting FF. Ya, life has a way of tossing that shit right in your face. Good that you're learning from other peoples mistakes though and applying it. Shows some smarts. Didn't Toe and you go round and round awhile back about something like this? |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Sept 4, 2005 18:55:13 GMT -8
Yea Toe and I did and now I'm moving more in the direction that he was talking about. See, before I went to camp I was not actually "in" the Air Force and my future was really uncertain. Now I am officially in the USAF and I went through thirty days of hell to guarantee it. I am not going to let those thirty days (not to mention my entire career) go down the drain because of a stupid DUI or doing any form of drugs. The Air Force is desperately searching for reasons to kick people out and they have instituted an absolute no tolerance policy towards drugs and alcohol. DUIs will get you kicked out of ROTC no questions asked. They also just raised the GPA and PT standards to try and get some of the weaker kids kicked it. I'm extremely lucky that I even got the opprotunity to go to camp. I also came pretty close to getting kicked out one day and it put a lot of things into perspective for me. Nothing is more important to me than my career in the Air Force - I would even give up alcohol if it was necessary.
On Training Day 0 the Commander told us that Field Training would be a life-changing event. I didn't believe him at the time but now I see what he was talking about.
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Post by americanpride on Sept 4, 2005 18:59:33 GMT -8
Yea Toe and I did and now I'm moving more in the direction that he was talking about. See, before I went to camp I was not actually "in" the Air Force and my future was really uncertain. Now I am officially in the USAF and I went through thirty days of hell to guarantee it. I am not going to let those thirty days (not to mention my entire career) go down the drain because of a stupid DUI or doing any form of drugs. The Air Force is desperately searching for reasons to kick people out and they have instituted an absolute no tolerance policy towards drugs and alcohol. DUIs will get you kicked out of ROTC no questions asked. They also just raised the GPA and PT standards to try and get some of the weaker kids kicked it. I'm extremely lucky that I even got the opprotunity to go to camp. I also came pretty close to getting kicked out one day and it put a lot of things into perspective for me. Nothing is more important to me than my career in the Air Force - I would even give up alcohol if it was necessary. On Training Day 0 the Commander told us that Field Training would be a life-changing event. I didn't believe him at the time but now I see what he was talking about. Hey James, The Army could always use another body. |
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Post by 101ABN on Sept 4, 2005 18:59:47 GMT -8
On Training Day 0 the Commander told us that Field Training would be a life-changing event. I didn't believe him at the time but now I see what he was talking about. Sounds like you had what some of us call "a moment of clarity." Remember what's important to you when the temptation comes. Good on you. |
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Post by Husky23 on Sept 4, 2005 19:02:49 GMT -8
Yea Toe and I did and now I'm moving more in the direction that he was talking about. See, before I went to camp I was not actually "in" the Air Force and my future was really uncertain. Now I am officially in the USAF and I went through thirty days of hell to guarantee it. I am not going to let those thirty days (not to mention my entire career) go down the drain because of a stupid DUI or doing any form of drugs. The Air Force is desperately searching for reasons to kick people out and they have instituted an absolute no tolerance policy towards drugs and alcohol. DUIs will get you kicked out of ROTC no questions asked. They also just raised the GPA and PT standards to try and get some of the weaker kids kicked it. I'm extremely lucky that I even got the opprotunity to go to camp. I also came pretty close to getting kicked out one day and it put a lot of things into perspective for me. Nothing is more important to me than my career in the Air Force - I would even give up alcohol if it was necessary. On Training Day 0 the Commander told us that Field Training would be a life-changing event. I didn't believe him at the time but now I see what he was talking about. Ya - that was a knock down drag out, you stubborn shit. Life, responsibilies, goals, accountability, dreams, providing, mentoring -- puts alot in perspective. The wife thing really didn't modify me (much) - But, wait till you have kids. Then you'll go through a whole nother round of this shit. |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Sept 4, 2005 19:02:53 GMT -8
Haha I think Field Training put the nail in the coffin for me Chris - I'm an Airman through and through. You guys can enjoy sleeping in the mud while I stay in a USAF hotel |
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Post by americanpride on Sept 4, 2005 19:04:06 GMT -8
Haha I think Field Training put the nail in the coffin for me Chris - I'm an Airman through and through. You guys can enjoy sleeping in the mud while I stay in a USAF hotel OH - but that's part of the Army experience. So - camp by far will definately be the most challenging aspect of Army ROTC. At least that's what my company commander has told me. Everything else is just too easy |
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Post by 101ABN on Sept 4, 2005 19:06:42 GMT -8
"OH - but that's part of the Army experience."
You dambetcha!
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Post by FightingFalcon on Sept 4, 2005 19:07:16 GMT -8
Haha well I'm still definitely gonna try out for Air Force Spec Ops so I'll hopefully be in the mud for part of my career Yea your camp will definitely be the most challenging part of your AROTC and probably your life up to this point. My advice is start getting ready for it now. I didn't prepare adequately and almost got kicked out of camp because of it. It's never too early to start working out, studying whatever you need to know, memorizing basically everything that you need to memorize, etc. Two years may seem like a long time away but trust me, it goes by really quickly. I thought I had all the time in the world and then all of a sudden I was getting off a plane with thirty people yelling in my ear. |
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Post by americanpride on Sept 4, 2005 19:09:35 GMT -8
Haha well I'm still definitely gonna try out for Air Force Spec Ops so I'll hopefully be in the mud for part of my career Yea your camp will definitely be the most challenging part of your AROTC and probably your life up to this point. My advice is start getting ready for it now. I didn't prepare adequately and almost got kicked out of camp because of it. It's never too early to start working out, studying whatever you need to know, memorizing basically everything that you need to memorize, etc. Two years may seem like a long time away but trust me, it goes by really quickly. I thought I had all the time in the world and then all of a sudden I was getting off a plane with thirty people yelling in my ear. Well - I think I have a good grasp so far. Have the tactical and combat know-how down. Most of the D&C squared away - though that's still a work in progress. For class this semester, we get to partcipate in an embassy takeover exercise on campus. ;D |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Sept 4, 2005 19:09:44 GMT -8
"Ya - that was a knock down drag out, you stubborn shit. " Haha Husky, I'm definitely a stubborn person . No matter what people say, I only learn through my own personal experiences. People tried to teach me the importance of preparing ahead of time for camp but I didn't believe them - and it almost cost me my career. Because of that, I generally only learn lesssons the hard way. But at least I learn them |
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. I've heard so many stories of really stupid shit getting people kicked out of ROTC and I don't want to be one of those stories. It just ain't worth it. 
