McCain tells Senator Obama where to get off!

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McCain to Obama: I won't make the same mistake twice (of trusting you)
By TimChapman

Feb 6, 2006


Arizona Senator John McCain today made public a scathing letter to Senator Barack Obama in which he takes Obama to task for going back on his word. Obama had privately assured McCain that he was not interested in making lobbying reform a political issue. Obama told McCain that he would work in good faith to ensure a bipartisan resolution to the crisis of confidence facing this Congress. But as McCain points out in his stinging missive, Obama could not resist the siren call of partisanship that so many of his Democratic colleagues have given themselves to. From the letter:


I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again.


Read the entire letter in the extended section:

www.townhall.com/blogs/capitolreport/TimChapman/story/2006/02/06/185464.html

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That last line is sweeeeeeeet! lol

I'll tell you who the loser will be here... The media.

They love McCain, but they love Obama too.

Now they're forced to take sides.

They're not going to be able to publicly overlook THAT LINE.

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bounce said:

That last line is sweeeeeeeet! lol

I'll tell you who the loser will be here... The media.

They love McCain, but they love Obama too.

Now they're forced to take sides.

They're not going to be able to publicly overlook THAT LINE.

This is the John McCain I like! If only he would attack those assholes on the left more often, I might consider supporting his nomination for Prez.

[MrDoublel]

Sad thing is McCain will probably get attacked by the left wingnuts over this. Forget about the fact Obama broke his word with Big John.

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You know... I like John McCain. I think he'd make a hell of a president. I think the most wonderful thing about him is his ability to transcend his stripe and work for the best interests of the country. Even though I think Obama is dynamic, intelligent and a has a good chance at being president himself someday, I still support McCain.

I think it's really sad that John McCain is so misunderstood and maligned by his party. And it's quotes like this:

"This is the John McCain I like! If only he would attack those assholes on the left more often, I might consider supporting his nomination for Prez."

...that illustrate why.

You've posted a letter, written by a man who felt the sting of betrayal at having been told he would get bipartisan support, and then did not. You posted it as if you agree with McCain that (at the end of the day) it is the country's best interests - and NOT that of the Republican or Democratic parties - that must be of primary concern. But you clearly don't agree with McCain, either! You clearly don't support his vision in this case, because you can't think of any other thing to say then "If only he would attack those assholes on the left more often, I might consider supporting his nomination for Prez."

Has it not occurred to you that in calling Barak Obama an asshole for being partisan, you make one of yourself?

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outsydr said:

You know... I like John McCain. I think he'd make a hell of a president. I think the most wonderful thing about him is his ability to transcend his stripe and work for the best interests of the country. Even though I think Obama is dynamic, intelligent and a has a good chance at being president himself someday, I still support McCain.

I think it's really sad that John McCain is so misunderstood and maligned by his party. And it's quotes like this:

"This is the John McCain I like! If only he would attack those assholes on the left more often, I might consider supporting his nomination for Prez."

...that illustrate why.

You've posted a letter, written by a man who felt the sting of betrayal at having been told he would get bipartisan support, and then did not. You posted it as if you agree with McCain that (at the end of the day) it is the country's best interests - and NOT that of the Republican or Democratic parties - that must be of primary concern. But you clearly don't agree with McCain, either! You clearly don't support his vision in this case, because you can't think of any other thing to say then "If only he would attack those assholes on the left more often, I might consider supporting his nomination for Prez."

Has it not occurred to you that in calling Barak Obama an asshole for being partisan, you make one of yourself?

Hold on there, cowboy.

We both obviously differ on what we believe to be best interests of this country. No?

In other words, you and I have different principles and beliefs. I don't expect Obama to modify his principles to make himself more palatable to the Republicans. I do, however, expect him to honor his word and uphold any promises he makes to a Senior Senator. He went back on his word for the sake of being partisan. I'm sorry, but that is what makes him a lowlife.

And Madison detested bipartisanship. The Founders created a system in which argument and divisiveness would be an inherent component to our political way of life. And if people thing today's campaigns are vitriolic and nasty, I suggest they look up what was said between candidates at that time.

The belief was that partisanship ensured stability and prevented any one group from gaining too much influence in our system.

I think Madison was correct.

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Especially as "bipartisanship" is used today... Republicans acting like democrats

[outsydr]

Hold on there, cowboy.

We both obviously differ on what we believe to be best interests of this country. No?

Truer words were never spoken! ;D

In other words, you and I have different principles and beliefs. I don't expect Obama to modify his principles to make himself more palatable to the Republicans. I do, however, expect him to honor his word and uphold any promises he makes to a Senior Senator. He went back on his word for the sake of being partisan. I'm sorry, but that is what makes him a lowlife.

This is not in dispute. I was referring your comment "If only he would attack those assholes on the left more often, I might consider supporting his nomination for Prez." What you're saying is, if McCain would only practice more partisan politics, if McCain would not be so eager to reach across the aisle, if McCain would just simply lash out at Democrats instead of involve them in the maintenance of government, you might deign to throw him a vote or two.

Don't for a minute think I don't see what you're trying to do, Mario! You're trying to avoid commenting on the details of the offense Obama is accused of, and simply focus on an offense itself. You're trying to duck the issue of complimenting McCain for chastising Obama's partisanship, while being partisan yourself.

I just think you're being a hypocrite.

And Madison detested bipartisanship. The Founders created a system in which argument and divisiveness would be an inherent component to our political way of life. And if people thing today's campaigns are vitriolic and nasty, I suggest they look up what was said between candidates at that time.

The belief was that partisanship ensured stability and prevented any one group from gaining too much influence in our system.

I think Madison was correct.

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Madison?? A little warning first, before you start going that far back to frame your arguments please?!?

Yes indeed, Madison was right to encourage partisan politics. Partisan politics is meant to maintain balance in society, so that no single point of view would be allowed to rule unopposed. To Madison, that would be too much like England's oppressive monarchy.

In today's political climate, we call also it fascism.

But even Madison knew that that was only meant to be a check. In the end, only union would guarantee a prosperous nation. There are a lot of people who don't understand the that, don't grasp the subtle notion that partisanship is a tool for hammering out the details, NOT a way of making laws or dictating policies.

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BUUUUUURRRRNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

[outsydr]

Is that meant to be some form of insult?