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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 13, 2006 7:51:04 GMT -8
Haha....a squid who rides around in full gear? Yea....sure...
That term is thrown around like no one's business. When I start doing wheelies/stoppies in public, then you can call me a squid. But if you think I'm a squid....wow...you don't know anything about the sports bike community. There are guys infinitely worse than me...
EDIT: Calling me a squid is like calling the entire sports bike community a squid. Aggressive driving? Everyone does that. If they don't....get a cruiser.
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 13, 2006 8:00:13 GMT -8
And you do? After - what - three weeks you are a member of the "sport bike community"? ROFLMAO! Hoo boy! I gotta get some air...
What a poseur....
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Post by Husky23 on Jun 13, 2006 8:07:51 GMT -8
How many miles of experience you got under your ass FF? OH, that's right...same as your bike and it isn't even out of it's break-in period. Don't lie to me Dug....when you're on the highway behind a cager going below the speed limit, do you honestly sit there? Or do you let your right hand take over and unleash the beast.... We all do it. I'm sure you've hit triple digits in public before as well. Not all the time, no. At times, yes. Do I zing by cagers...rarely - it can scare em, and besides reduces my reaction time if they do something unanounced (like land change). I respect rules of the road...I respect cagers legal space as I expect them to respect my vehicle space...but more importantly my life...and I generally try and make a good to fair report of motorcyclist - I'm courteous, giving of right of way, and allowing proper spacing (normally). But I do drive aggressive/defensive (for my own protection) but not to the point of irresponsible. Mike passes excellent advise - I have and do uss other traffic as blockers and aids; especially crossing intersections and wind and hazards, as visuals for others, and even at night to utilize their lighting. I do unleash the beast - when responsible to do so or when in an emergency condition. Like night driving home, 10 miles on a divided nice sweeping turns road, it was dark and hardly no vehicles...I used an 05 Mustang lights and with a very clear road ahead we paired up abeam in each's lane and took it up to 120 MPH. I am thinking your taking it fast for your level...I understand, I completely do...but don't give bikers too bad of a reputation or place yourself in a position to become a grease spot. |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 13, 2006 8:08:52 GMT -8
I'm a newb to owning but I'm definitely not a newb to the sport.
I don't comment on what ya'll on cruisers do so how about you mind your own business about what we on sports bikes do.
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 13, 2006 8:11:12 GMT -8
Here are some statistics for you to think about, but they probably don't know shit, either:
Here's a summary of NHTSA DOT HS 809 360:
Single vehicle motorcycle crashes account for about 45 percent of all motorcyclist fatalities.[/b} More than 38,000 motorcyclists have died in single vehicle motorcycle crashes between 1975 and 1999. The report claims to provide data for insight into possible causes for these fatalities. According to the report, from 1990 through 1999, there were a total of 11,038 fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. During that same time period, there were an estimated 294,000 non-fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. Of these, an estimated 39,000 involved property damage only and 255,000 involved injuries. Motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes decreased each year from 1990 to 1996, reaching a historic low of 937 in 1996 and again in 1997. In 1998, the fatalities increased to 1,042 (11.2 percent increase); in 1998 and in 1999 they increased to 1,140 (9.4 percent). The overall increase in motorcyclist fatalities from 1997 to 1999 was 203 (21.7 percent).
Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:
Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent
More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads
High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators
Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash
Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway
Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities
Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash
Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night
Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities
Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities
More riders age 40 and over are getting killed
Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license
1998 Motorcycle Facts:
2,284 motorcyclists died and approximately 49,000 were injured in highway crashes in the United States.
Per mile traveled in 1998, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant. And 3x (times) as likely to be injured.
Head injury is a leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
In 1998, 46% of fatally injured motorcycle drivers were not wearing helmets at the time of the crash.
NHTSA estimates that motorcycle helmets reduce the likelihood of a fatality by 29% in a crash. In 1998, 41% of all motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes were speeding.
Nearly one out of five motorcycle drivers (18%) involved in fatal crashes in 1998 was operating with an invalid license at the time of the collision.
Motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes in 1998 had higher intoxication rates than any other type of motor vehicle driver at 31%.
In 1998, 500 motorcyclists lives were saved due to helmet usage; 307 could have been saved.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 13, 2006 8:12:25 GMT -8
Funny - I just got pulled over two nights ago for doing 100 on a highway. It was 0300 and there was NO ONE else on the road. Cop let me go with a warning.
I would never do anything dangerous. Again, I don't lane split, don't change lanes without signaling, etc. I wouldn't cut a car off as I would hate them for them to do the same thing to me. When I say weaving, I still leave plenty of room when passing a car.
I just hate being around cars in normal driving conditions. Too many bad things can happen on a highway when you are right behind or aside a cager. I just do my best to get away from them.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 13, 2006 8:14:37 GMT -8
Mike - did I not just say that I ride in full gear? I'm actually a gear Nazi...
As for driving drunk...I don't even look at my bike if I had a drink at some point that day. If I drink at all during the day, I won't touch it.
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 13, 2006 8:19:37 GMT -8
I'm a newb to owning but I'm definitely not a newb to the sport. I don't comment on what ya'll on cruisers do so how about you mind your own business about what we on sports bikes do. I am a tourist, thank you very much. I have ridden 80mph all day long on a loaded BMW K100RS, and I would say with all modesty that I could outride you on that same rig - you pick the road.  The real issue is that I am still alive. I never got as heavy into racing as Husky but I am frankly surprised he even rides on the street. Most of the racers I know think it's so dangerous they won't even go out on the street, let alone ride like it's the track. |
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Post by Husky23 on Jun 13, 2006 10:31:12 GMT -8
Funny - I just got pulled over two nights ago for doing 100 on a highway. It was 0300 and there was NO ONE else on the road. Cop let me go with a warning. I would never do anything dangerous. Again, I don't lane split, don't change lanes without signaling, etc. I wouldn't cut a car off as I would hate them for them to do the same thing to me. When I say weaving, I still leave plenty of room when passing a car. I just hate being around cars in normal driving conditions. Too many bad things can happen on a highway when you are right behind or aside a cager. I just do my best to get away from them. Not here to crticize FF... Those of us here know the level of excitement that two wheels provide...the closeness to the elements, the control, the nimbleness, the acceleration and exhilaration. It’s the closest one can get to flying. Those of us here also know (that have lived through it) the over eagerness, the over confidence, the learning curves, the dangers uniquely particular to motorcycling. And most everyone here knows your motorcycling experience level, that and your youthful nature…trust me dude we understand. I understand…so don’t take offense…take it more as wise cautious words…even if they are abit hard to swallow. They are meant in care and to keep you riding and learning for years to come. |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 13, 2006 12:55:32 GMT -8
I gotcha Husky. I'm sure you were in my place once and I'm sure one day I'll be in yours.
It's probably the reason why we all got interested. I don't think anyone who gets a motorcycle got one because they thought, "Hrm, these look fun to ride around in...". I got it because the speed, thrill and exhilaration that it provides - a feeling that I haven't been able to match anywhere else in the world.
Well at least you know where I'm coming from. You probably understand better than most people. I know that people can switch back and forth from sports bike to cruiser but I think the majority stick with one or the other. We really are two different types of people and what bike you get goes a long way in saying what kind of person you are, IMHO.
I got this bike for a reason Husky - I think you know why. Clearly you still get that feeling.
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Post by Husky23 on Jun 13, 2006 14:24:36 GMT -8
OK...you got me there  |
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 14, 2006 18:30:48 GMT -8
I'm a newb to owning but I'm definitely not a newb to the sport. I don't comment on what ya'll on cruisers do so how about you mind your own business about what we on sports bikes do. Maybe because squirrely-ass riders doing triple digits in traffic give ALL motorcyclists a bad name. Retarded? Yes, that's the definition of retarded. That cop didn't do anybody a favor, least of all you. If he's the one that ends up scraping you off the side of a truck, he'll regret his leniency for years to come. Mike, if you've got dibs on the heart, I'll take the liver and pancreas. He can't have damaged them too badly yet. |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 15, 2006 2:49:10 GMT -8
Haha....you should ask my friends about the state of my liver....
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 15, 2006 9:12:45 GMT -8
I'm a newb to owning but I'm definitely not a newb to the sport. I don't comment on what ya'll on cruisers do so how about you mind your own business about what we on sports bikes do. Maybe because squirrely-ass riders doing triple digits in traffic give ALL motorcyclists a bad name. Retarded? Yes, that's the definition of retarded. That cop didn't do anybody a favor, least of all you. If he's the one that ends up scraping you off the side of a truck, he'll regret his leniency for years to come. Mike, if you've got dibs on the heart, I'll take the liver and pancreas. He can't have damaged them too badly yet. No takers on the brain, I see.... |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 15, 2006 13:42:15 GMT -8
Go back to your BMW pops.......
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