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Post by Far Rider on Jun 15, 2006 14:36:09 GMT -8
Go back to your BMW pops....... Do you mean the BMW I can ride circles around you on, butter bar? Oh, I take that back, you're not even a butter bar yet. Just curious, what are you going to do when some E-9 master sergeant tries to tell you something? Are you going to get all pissed off and pouty and tell him he can do it his way and you'll do it your way, "pops"? Or maybe you think I am the only old crank in the world who's going to tweak your snotty nose? You have a lot to learn, boy. The real question is, are you going to learn it in time? |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 15, 2006 16:52:39 GMT -8
The difference is, I have a lot of respect for SNCOs.
I have, however, lost all of my respect for you.
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 15, 2006 17:21:23 GMT -8
The difference is, I have a lot of respect for SNCOs. I have, however, lost all of my respect for you. Ow, that hurts. I have challenged your lame assed ideas and you hate me for that and even in this very thread another rider told you I was giving you good advice, but you can't take good advice from me because you have "lost all respect for me". Boo fucking hoo - I'll cry in my pillow every night. Now answer the question: what are you going to do when some master sergeant tweaks your nose the way I do? Are you going to tell him you have lost all respect for him? How about when the cop writes you a ticket for driving like an idiot? How about the seasoned rider with scuffs on his knees who calls you a wannabe in your brand new gear and three weeks of experience? Here's the point: you are going to have to deal with people telling you shit you don't want to hear all of your life. I don't know if you realize this or not but your respect and a couple of bucks will get me a beer during happy hour - it's not worth a hell of a lot to me. But if you think I'm the last (or even the first) to rain on your parade you are sadly mistaken. And it's rapidly getting to the point where you can't blow everybody off. |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 15, 2006 17:37:01 GMT -8
It's not just this Mike - it's everything. We can't have a discussion anymore without you getting all pissy and attacking me in someway. Years ago we used to have some good debates but now it's like you purposely find something to attack me for. We could be in perfect agreement on a subject and you'll find something to disagree with me over. I don't know if it was when I started to question your concept of Christianity, did drugs, etc. but you've hated me for a while.
I used to just get over it because of the long-standing relationship that we have. But now, why the fuck do I care? It's my life and I'm not gonna let some old-timer who is already through most of his tell me what to do. Why should I respect you? You have none for me so why the fuck should I make an attempt to respect you? Just because you're older? Pfft....fuck that.
As for a SNCO....the difference is that he'll respect me. You don't....so I don't care about your opinion.
Actually, all of the riders I've encountered have been more than happy to welcome me to the family. I don't have to prove anything to them like I do to you. They were newbs once too.
I can deal with someone giving me shit. My friends and I give it to each other all the time.
But when it becomes really personal, like it has with you, I have no problem telling that person to just fuck off.
I know you don't care about my respect. But why do you think I care about your opinion either?
Everybody? Or just some old man who, for reasons unknown, has a personal crusade against me?
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 16, 2006 1:36:56 GMT -8
The reality is that you don't like being told anything because you think you know everything already. To say that anything I say about motorcycles or motorcycling is useless because I am - what was it - "already through most of my life" is the worst kind of illogical tripe, the kind you have become known for over the last couple of years. I don't have a "personal crusade" against you - you're just too damn blind, deaf, and ignorant for your own good.
I have seen too many people who were riding responsibly die on motorcycles - yes, I knew them - to think that somebody who is too fucking stupid to listen to reason is going to get away with riding like an idiot for very long.
But it's just as well. Go ahead and remove yourself from the gene pool. You won't catch me trying to talk you out of it any more.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 16, 2006 8:10:21 GMT -8
This is what I find so funny...I have admitted when I'm wrong in the past and I'll continue to do so in the future. I don't think I shit marbles and I know that I can be wrong from time to time.
But you - if you disagree with you then there HAS to be some sort of mental disorder. I must have missed the part when God gave you the answers to all of the secrets of life, Mike. You have no patience for people who disagree with you. I guaran-fuckin-te you that if Mario started to post articles that you didn't like on a consistant basis, you'd start calling him an arrogant little piss. Don't believe me? Well look how you treated Cameron - someone you used to consider your friend. Sure, he said some things that were out of line but what do you expect when he is ganged up on by basically every member here? When his loyalty is questioned, how the fuck do you want him to respond? "Excellent point guys, I really DO hate this country!" The second someone stops drinking your kool-aid, you drop them like hot cakes.
Here's the reaction I got when reading Husky's reply and your reply
Husky - "Dude, you should watch out for that triple digit shit cause its really dangerous and you can put other people in danger." OK that's cool, I dig.
You - "You fucking little squid....what the fuck is wrong with you? You think just because you've been riding for three weeks that you know shit? I've been riding for 40 years and I can tell that you're a dumbass."
How the fuck do you want me to respond to this Mike? "Gee, well now that you put it that way, you're absolutely right!" What you posted wasn't constructive criticism - it was personal attacks that you've become famous for.
And the only cure is Mike's famous kool-aid, right?
I'm sure that would make you happy, wouldn't it?
You've already decided that I'm not fit to be an Air Force Officer (you know, never having even MET me before...I guess you know better than the Air Force Captain who graduated me tho...he was probably a dumb-ass too, right?), so why not....
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 16, 2006 8:28:51 GMT -8
In the first place, what did I do to Cameron? I'll tell you what I did, and it's still up if you want to go read it: I explained my position, and NOT ONCE did I ever question his loyalty.
In the second place, you are not Cameron. Cameron is a big boy, and he can take care of himself.
And in the third place, it's not that I have no patience for people who disagree with me, I have no patience for people who piss down my leg and tell me it's raining. There's a difference.
Here's what you thought I said:
You - "You fucking little squid....what the fuck is wrong with you? You think just because you've been riding for three weeks that you know shit? I've been riding for 40 years and I can tell that you're a dumbass."
Here's what you should have heard:
You dumb shit, you don't have the experience to ride like that, especially in traffic! What are you trying to do, commit suicide? I have an assload more experience than you do and even I don't ride like that!
There's a subtle difference between what you heard and what you should have gotten out of it. Or maybe you think I should be soft peddling a matter of life and death?
No, the cure is to wise up before you get killed.
Not the way you are. You have a lot of growing up to do. One more time: do you think I am the only old crank you are ever going to run into? No! The military is full of them, and they are going to tell you the same things I tell you, and you won't have the luxury of blowing them off like you do me.
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 16, 2006 10:11:14 GMT -8
FF,
What you're not recognizing is that it's only a matter of style.
Husky - "Dude, you should watch out for that triple digit shit cause its really dangerous and you can put other people in danger." OK that's cool, I dig.
You - "You fucking little squid....what the fuck is wrong with you? You think just because you've been riding for three weeks that you know shit? I've been riding for 40 years and I can tell that you're a dumbass."
It doesn't matter much because you haven't heard either one of them. You still go on defending your dumbshit behavior.
Three experienced riders with a combined total of what, half a million miles with iron under their asses...? all trying to tell you that you've got ORGAN DONOR written all over you.
Dude, just hear the message and don't personalize what isn't personal.
You're a young man. You have a lot to learn. People who know that are trying to act in your best interest, which may not match your desire, but it's your best interest all the same.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 16, 2006 11:42:30 GMT -8
101 - See, this is what I'm talking about. When you respond in a respectful manner, I take your comments more seriously. You guys may think that I don't take your opinion into consideration but I realize that you have much more experience than I do. Truth be told, since I got pulled over I have taken it a little easier. I still hit 90 on the highway (I have to in order to keep up with traffic) but I leave more room when passing cars.
My friends all know how to get a point across to me. They know that the second they break out the personal attacks, I've tuned them out completely. A cadet in ROTC made that mistake with me (long story but basically instead of coming to me in a relaxed manner she got all crazy and started attacking me) and I just tuned her out the second she started talking. Again my friends and I all take shots at each other but when it becomes hostile, I've stopped paying attention. Mike's point may have been valid but the way he presented it....it's only natural for me to react in a hostile manner as well. Hence the different reaction I had to Dug that I had to Mike.
Respect is a two-way street. When it's given to me, I have absolutely no problem giving it back. When it becomes a one-way street....that's when I get angry.
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 16, 2006 11:51:37 GMT -8
Respect is not something you demand, it's something you earn. That's your whole problem. You think because you have the bike and all the trappings that should be good for instant respect. You tell the people on THC you went through ROTC as if that should be good for instant respect. I can't begin to tell you how insulting I find that.
The truth is that you haven't done anything to be respected for. You say that you don't have anything to prove to me and that you have no respect for me but the reality is that I have nothing to prove to you. I've been there and you haven't.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 16, 2006 13:01:36 GMT -8
The kind of respect I'm talking about is the kind that you give normal human beings without question. You don't expect them to cure cancer before you can actually get off your high horse and talk to them.
I'm sorry that we haven't all been as successful as you Mike. Excuse me...insolent peasant coming through.....
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 16, 2006 13:38:32 GMT -8
When I meet normal human beings I usually am polite to them.
Speak for yourself - nobody elected you spokesman.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jun 16, 2006 14:17:36 GMT -8
Until they start disagreeing with you, right?
Until they think they know how to live their life without some asshole telling them what the "right" way to live their life is?
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Post by Far Rider on Jun 16, 2006 14:37:27 GMT -8
Until they start disagreeing with you, right? Until they think they know how to live their life without some asshole telling them what the "right" way to live their life is? In case I haven't made myself abundantly clear yet, smoke your dope, get shitfaced, and drive your bike in the most reckless manner you can think of. I WANT you to get your ass kicked when you actually have to pay for that education of yours by going into the military with that arrogant assed attitude of yours. I hope you don't kill yourself because I WANT you to know what screws in your bones feel like, and I WANT you to abuse your body so that you have health problems later in life, but most of all, I WANT you to live to be an old man so you can have some spoiled assed snot nosed mama's boy call you an asshole and tell you you don't know what you're talking about and about how they know more about life than you do. What I really want is for you to run into yourself someday. |
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Post by Husky23 on Jun 18, 2006 11:04:42 GMT -8
Well....I'm glad to see this thread isn't geting too personal...LOL Toast...To two wheelers of all varieties...be safe...and keep the greasy side down. OK, gotta go...I hear a sweeping corner calling me  |
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