The Soldiers Creed- Ethics of the Modern Warrior

[101ABN]

The Soldier's Creed:

I am an American Soldier.

I am a Warrior and a member of a team.

I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.

I am an expert and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.

[MrDoublel]

The Army Values

L oyalty
D uty
R espect
S elfless service
H onor
I ntegrity
P ersonal courage

LEADERSHIP

[tits]

Why is that so many of the Left who have never been exposed to these concepts are so quick to deny them?

[101ABN]

I'm not getting much response to it at the other place.

Amazing!

[MrDoublel]

Because these are based on concepts many on the left don't comprehend. Things like Honor, Duty and Selfless Service and to "Old fashioned" or "Conservative" appearing so they must be discounted and denied.

How many on the left have ever actually served or, God forbid, thought of self sacrifice?

[peterd]

I don't want to sound negative. I believe in soldiers creed, when I was in the military, I lived by it. Now times has changed. Changes started to occur late 80's and they became more evident now. I enjoy listening peoples stories, views, and opinions. As I listen to our new officer corps at CGSC, I became concern. It seems that todays military lacks more of human aspect. In my time in the military we cared about our cooworkers, friends, etc. What I noticed today, is lack of care and lack of humantity toward one another. It seems that people today are focused more on themselves than team. The saying, Capt leaves the ship last does not seem to exists. We had more forgivness than soldiers today.
If I am wrong, I stand to be corrected, however this is my observation for today. This is not that I don't like military. I stayed in for over 20 years and been in many places, and help those who needed. Military was good to me and I will never complain about my service. Today I see something very different. When I see the soldiers creed and compare it with what has been said by many, it makes me wonder if there is something wrong.

[MrDoublel]

I have to say the officer corps is politically cut-throat. I saw stuff happen in the Stan that would have gotten officers relieved in the active army but, now adays, you don't want to hurt someones carreer. Remember CPT Dumas? Our boss tried to give him a negative evaluation in an attempt to get him forceably retired...He got raked over the coals for it. Now we have a captain with a history of marginal evaluations and a tendancy towards laziness and mediocre performance politicing to get a company command. He's a real nice guy, and a real mediocre officer...at best. But, you don't want to hurt his carreer! The same thing goes on with senior NCO's, real marginal slugs don't get booted cause it could ruin their carreer.

I have made it a point to ensure the slugs cannot hide and do whatever I can to make sure they get exposed to the light of day.

[peterd]

I remember CPT Dumas. Problem with todays officer corps is that to many of the get commissioned and they don't fit the profile. In my days some of them would eat hand grenade. I am glad being retired. What I see military has changed. I see very few good officers. Of course being good on what you doing does not guarantee you promotion.

[MrDoublel]

I have to admit, Dumas is the extreem. There are plenty of good officers out there, it's just that the bad ones get peoples attention and all the PC crap keeps them around until they screw up so bad some one dies or goes to prison.

[santee]

Well, I have seen quite a variety. I think the Officers and NCO's are still there that care about the soldiers and leading from the front as well as being hte last to leave. I have always tried to make it my practice when eating with my troops to make sure they are taken care of before I am.

But then I have also seen Officers who look good on paper but can't lead jack shit.

[AmericanPride]

The military suffers from a structural problem that festers in the fear of liability. Making the military risk-adverse reduces innovation, boldness, and leadership. An ideal officer corps would consist of professionals who are Soldiers, Intellectuals, Citizens, and Gentlemen.

[cataracts]

One of my sons was admitted to a prestigious military school in the East. The first day he was so excited that he was actually hopping rather than walking. He quit after his first year.
1)Every Cadet that had authority was nothing but a bully. A bully with no class.
2)There was very little camradare except with a few people.
3)Standards, values, and ethics were out the door.
4)He literally had to fight his way through the first year. (fists).
5) Every class was dumbed down to accomodate 'somebody's' son. My son got straight A's without cracking a book.

I blame it all on the teachers and those that hire the teachers.
I often wonder what kind of officers that group is ever going to make.

C.

[MrDoublel]

Cat, they will crank out the kind of officers people like me will have to babysit to ensure they don't kill someone or get their ass kicked by the troops (a rare occurance). Sadly, many of them will think they are smarter than their soldiers/NCOs just because the attended (insert school name here). The truly smart ones will either excell or go to the private sector.