Post by jfree on Oct 31, 2006 13:35:32 GMT -8
THC has been going rabid in deleting posts about Sheik Hilali's comments comparing women to meat for scavengers and claiming gang rapists are gettin a raw deal because they are Muslim. Sheik Hilali and Cleric Omran have been wailing that lebanese Muslim gang rapists got unusually long sentences for raping up to 50 teenage girls. Seems they think a man who rapes one woman and only gets three years is equal to pack rapists you are convicted of committing 4-16 rapes that were racially motivated. Here are the unedited articles.
Lebanese Muslim gang leader sentenced to 38 years jail for racially motivated pack-rapes of Australian girls
Anna Marshall 4 August 2006
Bilal Skaf, the leader of a Lebanese gang which perpetrated racially motivated pack-rapes on Australian teenage girls in Sydney in 2000, was last week sentenced to a further term of imprisonment. Added to the the 28 years he is serving for other pack-rapes, his maximum term is 38 years.
His younger brother and accomplice Mohammed was sentenced to 15 years jail. With other sentences he will serve a maximum of 26 years.
To show their disdain for Australian culture and Australian females, gangs of Lebanese Muslims carried out violent, racist pack-rapes on young Australian girls around Sydney in 2000. Over 50 young girls were pack-raped during this rampage.
Bilal Skaf, the leader of one gang organised the pack rape of a sixteen-year-old girl known as Miss D near a soccer field in the Sydney suburb of Gosling on the night of August 12, 2000. Fourteen Lebanese youths-pack raped Miss D that night.
Nine of the men were brought to trial. Skaf made history when he was sentenced to 55 years jail. He appealed, and the conviction was overturned on a technicality. On April 18 this year a jury finds the brothers guilty for the second time.
Justice Michael Finnane who presided over the Skafs' trial, described the assaults, in August 2000, as "one of the greatest outrages in criminal terms that has been perpetrated on the community in Sydney ... militarily organised gang rape involving 14 young men".
"What this trial showed was that he was the leader of the pack, a liar, a bully, a coward, callous and mean," Finnane said of Bilal Skaf. "He is in truth a menace to any civilised society".
Apart from the Skaf brothers, those sentenced on October 11, 2002 following the original trial were:
Belal Hajeid, aged 20, sentenced to 23 years
Mahmoud Chami, 20, sentenced to 18 years
Tayyab Sheikh, 18, sentenced to 15 years
Mohammed Sanoussi, 18, sentenced to 21 1/4 years
Mahmoud Sanoussi, 17, sentenced to 11 1/4 years
'H', 19, sentenced to 25 years
Mohamed Ghanem, 19, sentenced to 40 years
www.australian-news.com.au/Leb_rapists.htm
Brothers get 70 years for gang rape
Four brothers who gang raped two Sydney teenagers were sentenced to a total of 70 years in jail between them.
But one of their victims said she was "not overly satisfied" with the sentences.
The brothers blamed a police conspiracy against Muslims for their convictions, and continued to maintain their innocence when their jail terms were read out.
Two of the brothers were sentenced in the NSW Supreme Court to 22 years each behind bars, and the other two to 16 and 10 years.
The four men, now aged between 17 and 25, were found guilty by a NSW Supreme Court jury late last year of nine counts each of aggravated sexual assault in company.
The rapes occurred at their family home in Ashfield on July 28, 2002.
Another man, known only as RS, also was convicted of nine counts of gang rape in relation to the incident but committed suicide in jail last week.
After the sentences were read out, the 19-year-old brother, known only as MRK, put his head in his hands and wept.
His brother, known as MAK, then stood up and proclaimed the four men's innocence.
"We did not do this crime," he said.
"This crime was committed against us. The police set us up because we are Muslim."
But sentencing judge Justice Brian Sully said the cultural differences between the perpetrators and their victims should not be used as justification for the rapes.
"Neither the law, nor the culture of Australia, recognises multiculturalism ... as providing in any way or to anybody a convenient justification either for rape or for any other form of sexual abuse," he said.
Justice Sully sentenced 25-year-old MSK, who he described as the ringleader, and 17-year-old MMK to 22 years each behind bars.
He sentenced their 23-year-old brother MAK to 16 years, and MRK to 10 years.
MSK was given a non-parole period of 16 and a half years, MMK 13 years, and MAK 12 years.
However, MRK, who did not perform any of the rapes himself, could be out of jail in as little as five years.
Outside the court, one of the victims, known as LS, said she was "not overly satisfied" with the sentences but thanked the police and prosecutors for their work.
"Everybody with the police have done their best," she said.
One of the investigating detectives, Senior Constable Tony Adams, said no amount of jail time would ever compensate the victims for what he described as one the most violent rapes he had ever investigated.
"No sentence, no matter how harsh, will ever compensate the victim(s)," he said.
au.news.yahoo.com/040422/2/onys.html
www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20673466-661,00.html
Sheik claims court biasMark Dunn and Evelyn Yamine
October 30, 2006 11:00pm
A MELBOURNE cleric claims a gang of rapists was jailed for up to 60 years because they were Muslim.
It came as Sydney firebrand Sheik Taj el-Din al-Hilaly stepped down indefinitely last night after being rushed to hospital with chest pains.
Days after igniting a storm of controversy by comparing immodestly dressed women to "uncovered meat", Sheik Hilaly said the pressure was affecting his health.
In a statement from his hospital bed, the mufti said he had asked for "indefinite leave from my duties at Lakemba mosque".
Sheik Hilaly has received support from his Melbourne rival Sheik Mohammed Omran.
Sheik Omran said the gang rape case central to Sheik Hilaly's explosive comments revealed an anti-Muslim bias in the judiciary.
In a recent sermon, the Brunswick cleric said the rapists were treated worse than murderers.
He said a father who raped his daughter was jailed for just three years.
"I feel there is no justice here. They (the Sydney gang) deserve more than 60 years . . . in Islam they deserve the capital punishment if they really did that," Sheik Omran says in an audio from the sermon available on his website.
"But . . . 60 years and someone else three years -- and they did the same crime. Why? Three years for someone, even raped his own daughter, what (is) worse more than that. But they make big fuss about these kids (the Sydney rape gang) because one of them has names Mohammed, one Ahmad.
"Even if you killed someone you don't go for 60 years. This is where I think everything is unbalanced. We want either justice for everyone, either everyone goes for 60 years or everyone goes for three years."
The besieged Sydney mufti was rushed to hospital after collapsing in a meeting with the Lebanese Muslim Association, which was deciding his future. "The pressure of the last couple of days has had an obvious effect on my health and wellbeing," he said in a statement.
The mufti said his comments were not intended to offend women and conceded the comparison of women to exposed meat was "inappropriate and unacceptable for Australian society and Western society in general".
The sheik is also facing a police inquiry into whether he breached anti-terror laws after comments supporting jihadists fighting coalition troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Prime Minister John Howard said yesterday he was concerned recent events would irreparably damage the reputation of Muslims within the broader community.
Lebanese Muslim gang leader sentenced to 38 years jail for racially motivated pack-rapes of Australian girls
Anna Marshall 4 August 2006
Bilal Skaf, the leader of a Lebanese gang which perpetrated racially motivated pack-rapes on Australian teenage girls in Sydney in 2000, was last week sentenced to a further term of imprisonment. Added to the the 28 years he is serving for other pack-rapes, his maximum term is 38 years.
His younger brother and accomplice Mohammed was sentenced to 15 years jail. With other sentences he will serve a maximum of 26 years.
To show their disdain for Australian culture and Australian females, gangs of Lebanese Muslims carried out violent, racist pack-rapes on young Australian girls around Sydney in 2000. Over 50 young girls were pack-raped during this rampage.
Bilal Skaf, the leader of one gang organised the pack rape of a sixteen-year-old girl known as Miss D near a soccer field in the Sydney suburb of Gosling on the night of August 12, 2000. Fourteen Lebanese youths-pack raped Miss D that night.
Nine of the men were brought to trial. Skaf made history when he was sentenced to 55 years jail. He appealed, and the conviction was overturned on a technicality. On April 18 this year a jury finds the brothers guilty for the second time.
Justice Michael Finnane who presided over the Skafs' trial, described the assaults, in August 2000, as "one of the greatest outrages in criminal terms that has been perpetrated on the community in Sydney ... militarily organised gang rape involving 14 young men".
"What this trial showed was that he was the leader of the pack, a liar, a bully, a coward, callous and mean," Finnane said of Bilal Skaf. "He is in truth a menace to any civilised society".
Apart from the Skaf brothers, those sentenced on October 11, 2002 following the original trial were:
Belal Hajeid, aged 20, sentenced to 23 years
Mahmoud Chami, 20, sentenced to 18 years
Tayyab Sheikh, 18, sentenced to 15 years
Mohammed Sanoussi, 18, sentenced to 21 1/4 years
Mahmoud Sanoussi, 17, sentenced to 11 1/4 years
'H', 19, sentenced to 25 years
Mohamed Ghanem, 19, sentenced to 40 years
www.australian-news.com.au/Leb_rapists.htm
Brothers get 70 years for gang rape
Four brothers who gang raped two Sydney teenagers were sentenced to a total of 70 years in jail between them.
But one of their victims said she was "not overly satisfied" with the sentences.
The brothers blamed a police conspiracy against Muslims for their convictions, and continued to maintain their innocence when their jail terms were read out.
Two of the brothers were sentenced in the NSW Supreme Court to 22 years each behind bars, and the other two to 16 and 10 years.
The four men, now aged between 17 and 25, were found guilty by a NSW Supreme Court jury late last year of nine counts each of aggravated sexual assault in company.
The rapes occurred at their family home in Ashfield on July 28, 2002.
Another man, known only as RS, also was convicted of nine counts of gang rape in relation to the incident but committed suicide in jail last week.
After the sentences were read out, the 19-year-old brother, known only as MRK, put his head in his hands and wept.
His brother, known as MAK, then stood up and proclaimed the four men's innocence.
"We did not do this crime," he said.
"This crime was committed against us. The police set us up because we are Muslim."
But sentencing judge Justice Brian Sully said the cultural differences between the perpetrators and their victims should not be used as justification for the rapes.
"Neither the law, nor the culture of Australia, recognises multiculturalism ... as providing in any way or to anybody a convenient justification either for rape or for any other form of sexual abuse," he said.
Justice Sully sentenced 25-year-old MSK, who he described as the ringleader, and 17-year-old MMK to 22 years each behind bars.
He sentenced their 23-year-old brother MAK to 16 years, and MRK to 10 years.
MSK was given a non-parole period of 16 and a half years, MMK 13 years, and MAK 12 years.
However, MRK, who did not perform any of the rapes himself, could be out of jail in as little as five years.
Outside the court, one of the victims, known as LS, said she was "not overly satisfied" with the sentences but thanked the police and prosecutors for their work.
"Everybody with the police have done their best," she said.
One of the investigating detectives, Senior Constable Tony Adams, said no amount of jail time would ever compensate the victims for what he described as one the most violent rapes he had ever investigated.
"No sentence, no matter how harsh, will ever compensate the victim(s)," he said.
au.news.yahoo.com/040422/2/onys.html
www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20673466-661,00.html
Sheik claims court biasMark Dunn and Evelyn Yamine
October 30, 2006 11:00pm
A MELBOURNE cleric claims a gang of rapists was jailed for up to 60 years because they were Muslim.
It came as Sydney firebrand Sheik Taj el-Din al-Hilaly stepped down indefinitely last night after being rushed to hospital with chest pains.
Days after igniting a storm of controversy by comparing immodestly dressed women to "uncovered meat", Sheik Hilaly said the pressure was affecting his health.
In a statement from his hospital bed, the mufti said he had asked for "indefinite leave from my duties at Lakemba mosque".
Sheik Hilaly has received support from his Melbourne rival Sheik Mohammed Omran.
Sheik Omran said the gang rape case central to Sheik Hilaly's explosive comments revealed an anti-Muslim bias in the judiciary.
In a recent sermon, the Brunswick cleric said the rapists were treated worse than murderers.
He said a father who raped his daughter was jailed for just three years.
"I feel there is no justice here. They (the Sydney gang) deserve more than 60 years . . . in Islam they deserve the capital punishment if they really did that," Sheik Omran says in an audio from the sermon available on his website.
"But . . . 60 years and someone else three years -- and they did the same crime. Why? Three years for someone, even raped his own daughter, what (is) worse more than that. But they make big fuss about these kids (the Sydney rape gang) because one of them has names Mohammed, one Ahmad.
"Even if you killed someone you don't go for 60 years. This is where I think everything is unbalanced. We want either justice for everyone, either everyone goes for 60 years or everyone goes for three years."
The besieged Sydney mufti was rushed to hospital after collapsing in a meeting with the Lebanese Muslim Association, which was deciding his future. "The pressure of the last couple of days has had an obvious effect on my health and wellbeing," he said in a statement.
The mufti said his comments were not intended to offend women and conceded the comparison of women to exposed meat was "inappropriate and unacceptable for Australian society and Western society in general".
The sheik is also facing a police inquiry into whether he breached anti-terror laws after comments supporting jihadists fighting coalition troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Prime Minister John Howard said yesterday he was concerned recent events would irreparably damage the reputation of Muslims within the broader community.
