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Post by Far Rider on Jan 24, 2006 17:48:06 GMT -8
Absolutely awesome. I didn't get a chance to see it at the theater and wasn't able to rent the DVD because it was always out, so I bought it without having seen it.
Glad I did.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Jan 24, 2006 20:39:23 GMT -8
...... except for the end  . About a year ago I read a book detailing the atrocities done by the Japanese against POW's in WWII. Several things in the book described acts that were barbaric and inhuman. Throughout the whole book I just thought of how much I would have liked to have been around to help those guys out and kick some sereous Jap ass  . |
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Post by Far Rider on Jan 25, 2006 2:34:10 GMT -8
Yes, the comlib left want you to think that putting some asshole on a leash and taking pictures of him naked is an "atrocity" - torture. They think history started the day they were born. Want to see "atrocities"? Look at that the Germans and the Japs did during WWII.
But the thing that struck me was the times we lived in. I was born in the early 1950's, and the world depicted in the movie is closer to the world I grew up in than today. People were patriotic until Vietnam came along and a bunch of fucking "students" and hollyweed libs - masters of geopolitics - decided they should be giving aid and comfort to the enemy, instead of supporting our troops.
John Kerry fucked us all. We don't call Jane Fonda "Hanoi Jane" for no reason.
That is why I had my own message board in the months leading up to the election. I didn't want that asshole in the White House so he could fuck the troops who have fought the Iraq war out of their victory.
If we had assholes like Kerry, Gore, and Clinton in power back during WWII we would be speaking German now.
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Post by LorSpi on Jan 25, 2006 8:12:07 GMT -8
When I work overnights it's DVD screening time.
Overall I'd give it a 7 maybe 8 (2am screenings do warp one's judgment) but in the guy drink beer category, I'd say it's pretty close to a 10 - lacking the requisite number of explosions necessary to achieve top score.
The thing that struck me - those actors who played the American POWs were downright fat. I think they made a mistake going for known character actors. They should have cast for type. Our troops were starved and denied any medication whatsoever - and were absolute skeletons when finally liberated. Our troops looked like concentration camp survivors.
Also - the Japanese beheaded out POWs.
Why did the film mitigate the actual atrocities committed by the Japanese? This did bother me while watching the film. Other than that - worth owning.
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Post by Far Rider on Jan 25, 2006 8:29:09 GMT -8
Budget? Maybe they wanted to use their SFX budget to go for the battle scenes and considered some of the gore to be gratuitous. I, for one, was just as happy that they didn't - the scene of the POWs being burned alive at the beginning was enough to piss me off for the rest of the film as it was.
I'd like to think that it wasn't political correctness.
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jan 25, 2006 13:40:16 GMT -8
I would have liked to have been around to help those guys out and kick some sereous Jap ass . It's not too late - you DO live in Japan  I think we gave them more than enough payback though, e.g. Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Now the Japanese just smile and take pictures . They are like the most peaceful people in the world....they even protested against sending non-combat troops to Iraq for fear of being an Imperialist power. |
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Post by Thomas on Jan 25, 2006 16:46:59 GMT -8
I also didnt get the chance to see this in the theater, but I wanted to.I guess i'll have to deal with watching it on a tv instead.What a shame that the real good movies hardly ever make any real money (only 10 million made in the U.S.).
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Post by dustdevil28 on Jan 26, 2006 4:06:34 GMT -8
I would have liked to have been around to help those guys out and kick some sereous Jap ass . It's not too late - you DO live in Japan I think we gave them more than enough payback though, e.g. Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Now the Japanese just smile and take pictures . They are like the most peaceful people in the world....they even protested against sending non-combat troops to Iraq for fear of being an Imperialist power. I have nothing but good things to say about the Japanese I've encountered in my stay over here. They are one of the most polite people I've ever met. Still, Japan has it's problems like any other country. Their protests against the troops in Iraq was mostly centered around a claim that it violated their constitution. After the U.S. took over we had Japan create a constitution that stated Japan would only use it's military in self defense. |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jan 26, 2006 14:05:46 GMT -8
"After the U.S. took over we had Japan create a constitution that stated Japan would only use it's military in self defense." Actually, that constitution was written by General Douglas MacArthur |
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Post by MrDoublel on Jan 27, 2006 6:27:26 GMT -8
"After the U.S. took over we had Japan create a constitution that stated Japan would only use it's military in self defense." Actually, that constitution was written by General Douglas MacArthur Supposedly, the one they wrote left the emporer as head of the government. MacArthur wrote the current one after tossing out the original. As for "The Great Raid" I got a copy atthe bazaar, one shot in the theater (you people getting up, laughing etc) and thought it was very good. One thing I really liked about it was the portrail of the Filipine resistance fighters. Portrayed them in the light of the heroes they were. I think it's destined to be a military classic. |
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Post by 101ABN on Jan 27, 2006 10:27:59 GMT -8
I think we gave them more than enough payback though, e.g. Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Now the Japanese just smile and take pictures . They are like the most peaceful people in the world... FF, If you haven't been there already, get yourself out to the UDVAR-HAZY Aerospace Museum near Dulles. One of the main attractions there is the B-29 "Enola Gay" that dropped the Hiroshima bomb.  The curious thing is how the Japanese tourists line up to get their pictures taken with it, smiling and laughing while passing their cameras back and forth between members of their tour group. |
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Post by FightingFalcon on Jan 27, 2006 13:06:09 GMT -8
Already saw it 101 - it was very impressive. I remember when they were first talking about adding the Enola Gay and people started protesting about ho we shouldn't "celebrate" that part of our history. Morons....I guess we should just forget all of the "negative" parts of our history and pretend like it never happened.... They also had a space shuttle there which was really cool. And a prototype of the JSF, which of course I loved |
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Post by 101ABN on Jan 27, 2006 15:20:19 GMT -8
The shuttle is the Enterprise, the full working protototype that never flew.  |
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Post by 101ABN on Jan 29, 2006 10:14:25 GMT -8
Well, i'm still under the weather and "The Great Raid" is on PPV.
Oh yeah!
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Post by 101ABN on Jan 29, 2006 13:16:30 GMT -8
Well, it could have been a terse war story, but it dragged in places.
Not in the same league as "Band of Brothers" or "Saving Private Ryan."
Margaret Utinsky was a real nurse whose husband died in a POW camp after which she aided the Pilipino resistance. The love connection, as depicted in the film , was fictitious and didn't help the film as it was presented.
A near miss, but still a miss, IMO.
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