To anyone who thinks illegals just want to work...

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Anyone who thinks illegals just want to come here to improve their lives doesn't understand.

There are many video clips here. They are all very offensive and if you understand Spanish, you will hear some horrible things. AND, if you understand English, you will also hear some horrible things.

Check out the "other clips" link.

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www.theamericanresistance.com/thousand_words/baldwin_park_2005may14.html


Warning to readers: The transcripts and photos from the following video clips contain very offensive statements. These are only a few examples of the angry racist slurs shouted at the Americans who dared to protest the monument in Baldwin Park, California.
Overview

Many in our government and the media deny the existence of the militant Mexican plans for the the reconquista of Aztlan. They say it is just another conspiracy theory. Others say it is only an idea supported by a few radical hispanics.

What happened in Baldwin Park [in Garden Grove, CA] is happening in cities across America. It is supported by all the major Mexican organizations including LULAC, LaRaza, and MALDEF. These groups get funding from corporations and American taxpayers. Elected officials attend their events and accept their awards. The media quotes them as sources in news reports. Yet they continue to deny that any of these groups are a danger to American citizens.

Read the transcripts and view the videos below. Ask all who continue to support open borders to take time to see the footage and then decide. Is it all a myth? Or is the reconquista of Aztlan well under way?

Background

Joe Turner from Save Our State organized the Baldwin Park rally to protest a monument funded by taxpayers on city property. The inscribed text promotes the radical and militant belief in the reconquista of Aztlan [the take-over of the US southwest (Aztlan) by Mexicans].

One passage on the monument laments the presence of whites in America by stating, “It was better before they came.”

Another section reads: “This land was Mexican once, was Indian always and is, And will be again.”


Joe said, "This divisive monument is funded by our tax dollars and we will not tolerate its anti-American message. This is not art. This is not freedom of expression. This is government-sanctioned sedition."

[FightingFalcon]

I can post videos of the KKK talking about how we should purify America of non-whites.

What is your point?

Radicals exist on all sides....

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fightingfalcon said:

I can post videos of the KKK talking about how we should purify America of non-whites.

What is your point?

Radicals exist on all sides....

How about we deal with our citizen-radicals and let Mexico deal with theirs. CITIZEN... being the key here.

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fightingfalcon said:

I can post videos of the KKK talking about how we should purify America of non-whites.

What is your point?

Radicals exist on all sides....

The last I checked, the KKK weren't illegal aliens.

They are here LEGALLY from what I can see. They're not breaking our laws every single day simply because of their presence here.

Their numbers are few and they're not conducting MASS PROTESTS in an effort to subvert our laws and take over our country.

Illegals are ILLEGAL. KKK members are radical.

[FightingFalcon]

Are you trying to say that all illegals (or even all of those who participated in the protest a few days ago), support the reconquest of the American south-west? That's ridiculous Bob.

I don't believe in generalizations or blaming the entire group for the actions of a few. Until you show me proof that ALL illegals and/or those who support immigration reform (including myself, who would do anything to defend the Union) want to turn the American south-west into a new province of Mexico, then I will continue to believe that this is a fringe group.

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fightingfalcon said:

Are you trying to say that all illegals (or even all of those who participated in the protest a few days ago), support the reconquest of the American south-west? That's ridiculous Bob.

I don't believe in generalizations or blaming the entire group for the actions of a few. Until you show me proof that ALL illegals and/or those who support immigration reform (including myself, who would do anything to defend the Union) want to turn the American south-west into a new province of Mexico, then I will continue to believe that this is a fringe group.

Didn't you go through a swearing in?

Why do you support a group of people who by their very nature here subvert our laws?

EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL ALIEN IN THIS COUNTRY is guilty of at LEAST one crime. EVERY GOD DAMNED ONE OF THEM.

And you support them? You rationalize their being here? You rationalize criminal activity?

I'd like to know how you rationalize your "Oath" to this country. You know, the part about defending this country from all enemies foreign and domestic.

It sounds to me like you don't have that part quite figured out just yet.

[FightingFalcon]

I'm leavin for the weekend but when I get back I'll respond to this.

I've tried explaining my stance before but I'll try to make it more clear. I do not support criminal activity.

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fightingfalcon said:

including myself, who would do anything to defend the Union)

Please don't give me your Bile about doing anything to defend the union.

We're being fucking invaded. Many are radicals, ALL ARE CRIMINALS.

You support the invaders and try to rationalize it by some bullshit about them just wanting to improve their lives.

I don't give a fuck "WHY" they think it's ok to break the law. They're criminals.

What concerns me is WHY YOU THINK it's ok for them to break our laws.

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fightingfalcon said:

I do not support criminal activity.

Laughable!

[dustdevil28]

The day they try and take any of the SW states is the day I go back and become a insurgent.

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In California, word has it that 23 hospitals closed between 1995 and 2000.

Financial hardship was cited as the primary reason.

Here is a statement from one report:

"The closing of hospitals is a serious concern for communities," he said. "There is a school of thought that says that California's hospital closures fit somewhat into the national trends, but we have increased concerns here because of the growth of the population and the diversity of the state. There is, on the other hand, some notion that hospitals that close are inefficient, and may need to be pruned from the system, so that other hospitals are more healthy."

www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2001/05/09_hospt.html

First, I'd like to translate this sentence:

we have increased concerns here because of the growth of the population and the diversity of the state.

Translation: We're being overrun by illegal aliens!

Second, I want to translate the charge of "inefficient."

Translation: If you can't serve all the illegal aliens and stay in business, maybe you should CLOSE and give someone else a shot at it.

The report did come from Communist California after all. Jesus!

In the mean time, the law abiding, PAYING patients can't go to any of these facilities for medical treatment. There is scant attention paid to that little detail. Now WE can't go there either!

Moreover, how can other hospitals be "more healthy" when all the illegals who shut down these 23 hospitals flock to the rest???

So, here we have a situation where these poor people come here ILLEGALLY to increase the quality of THEIR lives. As a result our schools are packed with their kids, our hospitals close because these people cannot pay for their health care, our highways are clogged with their vehicles (how much more gas do you think we'd have here if they weren't buying any?) and our prisons are packed with them as well. The quality of OUR LIVES is going down fast!

These people are DRAINING US DRY! AND YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT A $5 apple? We're already paying $10 for it!

To be sympathetic to the illegal aliens as they clog our schools, or prisons and our hospitals is mindless!

FUCK their quality of life. We have what we have here because our forefathers paid the price in terms of blood, sweat and tears. Now that we have a great place to live, they have decided that THEY WANT IT. Many of them are telling US to get the fuck out!

They bring their flags, their attitudes, their criminals, their language and put one HELL OF A DRAG on our system.

If they want the good life, I say, "GO MAKE IT IN YOUR COUNTRY!"

Ours isn't for sale!

[jfree]

This article appears in the October 1, 2004 issue of Executive
You gotta love it, even in this 2004 report, the CA libs still want to call them undocumented workers, lmao..

But here is better info on hospital closures for you bounce.


Intelligence Review.
California's Hospitals Closing,
More Cuts Ahead
by Linda Everett

The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors announced on Sept. 13 that Los Angeles County will lose yet another of its trauma centers—the Martin Luther King-Charles Drew Center which serves the very, very poor population of Watts. The King-Drew Hospital and Trauma Center was built after the 1965 Watts riots to serve the inner city population. Now, the Trauma Center is to close within 90 days—and it is not yet known if the Hospital itself will survive its multitude of financial crises. The shutting of the trauma center is emblematic of the crisis devastating California's entire healthcare infrastructure.
California displays in extreme form the physical destruction of healthcare capability which has resulted, over 25 years, from the replacement of the national hospital-sufficiency strategy of the 1946 Hill-Burton Law, with the "free market-driven" healthcare of the 1973 HMO law passed under Nixon, with its totally illusory "cost-containment" veneer. The percentage of California's population "covered" by managed care or health maintenance organizations (HMOs) is double that of the nation as a whole. Therefore, many more hospitals and physicians in California, than in other states, are reimbursed at below their own costs for care they provide to patients. Far more California hospitals are operating in the red, and closing. And the problem is getting worse as "Terminator" Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger cuts down the state's health insurance program.

The most populous state in the country is officially in a healthcare meltdown, with its hospitals, Emergency Departments (EDs), and trauma centers facing mounting risks on all fronts. According to the head of the California Medical Association, every hospital in the state is "on the verge of a whole series of unraveling events." Only through an FDR-type "Super TVA" proposed by economist Lyndon LaRouche, a national program of economic infrastructure construction and credits to states, could California dodge what will otherwise quickly become a public health catastrophe.

A Beds-per-Population Emergency
According to the California Healthcare Association CHA, 70 acute care hospitals closed in California between 1993 and 2003—a 13.33% drop in hospital capacity. During the same period, about 11,000 staffed hospital beds were lost (staffed beds are those which are both licensed and have the requisite staff available to care for patients). As the state's population grew by 13.44% over that decade, acute care hospital bed capacity dropped by 14.24%.

A real measure of how well a state can provide for its sick and disabled population is the ratio of hospital beds per 1,000 population. The minimum national standard set by the 1946 Hill Burton Law was 4.5-5.4 beds per 1,000 population. In 1993, California had 2.5 medical-surgical beds per 1,000 population, statewide. The California Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development reports that, between 1992 and 2001, the number of licensed med-surgical hospital beds dropped by 11%, and the per-capita ratio to 2.13 beds/1,000 population. The number of licensed beds is much higher than the actual number of staffed beds. By 2003, the statewide ratio dropped to just 1.9 beds per 1,000.

It has continued to fall during 2004, as seven more hospitals in the state have closed—six of them in Los Angeles County—with at least three more slated for closure in the county. The CHA told EIR that in 2004, California will have lost another 1,000 hospital beds—more closings and downsizings are imminent—as the state population grew to 36 million residents. The bed/population ratio will fall to 1.8/1,000.

On Sept. 8, the infamous and largest for-profit hospital cartel in the nation, HCA, announced it will close the San Jose Medical Center, with its Emergency Room and Trauma Center, in December—three years earlier than expected. That will leave downtown San Jose, which has a diverse population, without a hospital, ER, or trauma center. HCA intends to raze the hospital to sell off the lucrative property.

The epicenter of the crisis is Los Angeles. L.A. County is the nation's largest, covering 4,084 square miles, larger than the combined areas of Delaware and Rhode Island. It has the largest population (10,103,000 as of 2004) of any county in the nation, and it is exceeded by only eight states. L.A. County has lost 27 acute care hospitals in a decade, from 126 in 1994 to 99 in 2004. Besides the seven closed in 2004, seven other hospitals in the County have either scaled back or eliminated mental health care units. Of its 23 trauma centers, 13 have closed or were downgraded to emergency rooms. Now, it will lose the Watts trauma center—and possibly more hospitals, since the County health system is verging on collapse.

EDs all over the state are overcrowded, and understaffed, and some are forced out of business, even if their attached hospitals don't close. One disastrous Federal act, the 1973 Health Maintenance Organization and Resources Development Act, eventually wrecked both the infrastructure and financial ability of hospitals to treat patients. Another Federal law, the Balanced Budget Act of 1997, gutted reimbursement rates to hospitals and doctors. Throughout the 1993-2003 period, some hospitals closed their EDs to bar uninsured patients, as well as those "covered" by managed care and health maintenance organizations (HMOs), which were notorious for simply not paying ED doctors and specialists for treating emergency patients. Several private hospitals are either eliminating certain emergency services, such as orthopedics, or privatizing their emergency rooms, that is, closing them to ambulances.

Now, 58% of California's hospitals operate in the red. Hospitals that contract with state's Medicaid program, called Medi-Cal, are locked into a five year freeze on their reimbursement rates—it doesn't matter how much or how costly the care a patient needs, the hospital will be paid the same low rate.

7.5 Million Uninsured
The uninsured population in California is higher than the 18.7% documented for 2003, when it was already 3.6% higher than the rest of the nation. While one in five is uninsured in the state, in Los Angeles, it is one in three. California hospitals provide $5.1 billion in uncompensated care to the state's indigent population annually. Private hospitals dealt with the ever-growing number of uninsured by transferring these patients to Los Angeles County public hospitals. But the L.A. County health system has been in crisis since 1988. In 2002, it closed 16 community health clinics. In 2003, it restricted the number of uninsured patients that private hospitals could transfer to its public hospitals. Federally-funded community health centers are overwhelmed by the uninsured.

There are an estimated 2.2 million undocumented workers in California. The Bush Administration plans to "help" hospitals nationally to cover the costs of emergency care to illegal immigrants, but only under the condition that hospitals force their already frenzied ER staff to act like the Border Patrol and quiz every patient on their status: Are they citizens, documented, illegal; do they have visas, current authorization cards? Of the $1 billion Congress allotted for this over four years, California, if its hospitals willingly police immigrants, would get the largest amount—about $72 million a year.

But Los Angeles County alone spends $350 million a year on treating undocumented immigrants.

The state's fascist Governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, has pledged to cut $400 million from the state's Medicaid program (Medi-Cal); this would result in a loss of another $400 million more in Federal matching funds. In addition, Schwarzenegger plans to restructure Medi-Cal, inflicting higher co-pays and reducing services for some of the state's poor and disabled. This plan is so controversial that Schwarzenegger has twice held off release of his mega-restructuring outline. It will allegedly be released in January 2005 with the budget.

California already ranks dead last in terms of what Medi-Cal reimburses its hospitals. Doctors are in a pitched battle with Medi-Cal because their fee-for-services reimbursement rates are being slashed by 5%. This arbitrary and illegal cut had devastating results: 55% of physicians in California refuse to accept any new Medi-Cal patients in 2003. Disabled children and those with chronic conditions were hit the hardest.

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Thanks jfree.

Here's a great one-liner:

But Los Angeles County alone spends $350 million a year on treating undocumented immigrants.

OK, a million bucks a day just for LA County's ILLEGAL ALIEN health care.

A million bucks a day doesn't include the cost of their kids in our schools, the welfare they have managed to sign up for, the prisoners in our penal system and every other damn thing.

How many of these people drive uninsured and are involved in auto accidents every year?

How much damage do they cause in crime before we get them INTO our penal system?

We're paying A MILLION DOLLARS A DAY for LA County's ILLEGAL ALIEN health care and just exactly how much money do you suppose THEY ARE SENDING BACK TO Mexico every day???

More than a million bucks a day, that's for sure! They could easily afford to pay for what they drain from us, but they don't want to. They're here to send money BACK!

Here's the real question: How many LA County American lettuce pickers could we hire for a MILLION DOLLARS A DAY? (Thousands!)

How much is that apple costing you? A WHOLE LOT more than you think.

[FightingFalcon]

"Didn't you go through a swearing in?"

Sure did. And I have no problem upholding the laws of this country. I have no problem following the law as it is written - fortunately for me, automatic deportation is not part of the law if you arrest an illegal. So yea, I'm following the law.

"You support the invaders and try to rationalize it by some bullshit about them just wanting to improve their lives."

I don't support anyone. I'm simply doing what I think will best serve the Republic while acting in a humane manner. Excuse me for not being a NAZI with no emotions whatsoever.

"I'd like to know how you rationalize your "Oath" to this country. You know, the part about defending this country from all enemies foreign and domestic."

I will do every thing in my power to defend the Constitution (I took no Oath to defend the country) against all enemies, foreign and domestic. But especially domestic. Especially those who wish to turn America into a Fascist state where people take the law into their own hands and do whatever they please. Catch my drift Bob? I hope I don't have to spell out to you who I believe is the greatest threat to the Constitution. Hint: It certainly isn't Mexicans.

"What concerns me is WHY YOU THINK it's ok for them to break our laws."

I never said it was. I said our laws are retarded and need to be changed. Until that point, I will do whatever is required of me by the law. As I stated above, automatic deportation is not part of the law. So who is on the wrong side of the law in this argument Bob? I'm just dying for you to say that "well the law SHOULD BE..." Go ahead. Say it Bob.

"I'd like to know how you rationalize your "Oath" to this country. You know, the part about defending this country from all enemies foreign and domestic.

It sounds to me like you don't have that part quite figured out just yet."

It may have been a while since you took the Oath but we don't pledge to do ANYTHING for the country. Only the Constitution.

Still waiting for you to figure out THAT part. I don't give a shit what you think the Oath means. I know what I pledged to do and I have no problem fighting my fellow Americans in order to do it.

FYI - I only support emergency medical attention for illegals. So I really don't care about the "how much illegals cost America" argument. Perhaps there would be more space in our prisons if we let out those dangerous criminals known as pot smokers. But that would be too easy, wouldn't it?

[101ABN]

" I know what I pledged to do and I have no problem fighting my fellow Americans in order to do it."

The problem is you are more willing to fight your fellow Americans than the foreign invasion.

"So I really don't care about the "how much illegals cost America" argument."

Of course not. Your tune will change when you actually have to start paying for it.

" if we let out those dangerous criminals known as pot smokers."

Oh please...How many people do you think are in prison for smoking pot?

Then again, you support the Republic and the rule of law, don't you.