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Post by MARIO on Jun 25, 2006 12:03:01 GMT -8
>>>Now he has left me another opening. hehehehehe, he claims we lump him in, yet he lumps everyone else in a group..... how predictable.<<< Teasing him can be really fun.  Ask him this: "How does your amnesty benefit the United States and the Republican party?"He'll go wild. Full of bile. |
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Post by Sailor on Jun 25, 2006 14:55:14 GMT -8
Jree, I dont' know, maybe so. Or has close friends and relatives who are? Then there are the groups, some religious, who want our govt to take care of everyone like they're a charitable organization for God.  Interesting. Have you noted the religious note to some of his posts. "I happen to be a man, that for personal reasons of my own, immersed himself in the philosophical study, and understanding of God's law." "It's not me you need to worry about unloading on you. It's our Father you need to worry about, I would have thought a man in your position would be a little more circumspect in that regard. " Me"Be careful who you call a bigot. Too much use robs it of its sting. " Him"You've mistaken my purpose I'm not trying to save your soul, I'm warning others off, by showing you for what you are. " I'm sure there's more. This was just off one thread. I'm not going to bother trying again to have a sensible discussion with this Dingbat. 'Taint possible. |
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 25, 2006 15:19:47 GMT -8
"I'm not going to bother trying again to have a sensible discussion with this Dingbat. 'Taint possible. "
Sailor, I came to that conclusion a month ago.
He's lost his balance, fer sure.
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Post by Sailor on Jun 25, 2006 15:55:32 GMT -8
"I'm not going to bother trying again to have a sensible discussion with this Dingbat. 'Taint possible. " Sailor, I came to that conclusion a month ago. He's lost his balance, fer sure. No kidding. I still haven't quite figured out why I wanted to try to have a reasoned discussion with him after experiencing his previous conduct. Well, just so it's not a complete loss, he's graduated to the "poopflingers" list, the list of posters there whose cages I rattle simply for entertainment.  I told him he's on "Ignore," but then you saw that and his "coward" response. I'll let him stew for a little while before I start poking his cage. |
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Post by jfree on Jun 25, 2006 17:17:56 GMT -8
I am fairly sure, looking at content, writing style and current rampage campaign, Spirit of 76 and KINGRAT are Cameron, he has invented two friends to help himself out.
What is even funnier is that you can still tell if someone is using a second ID or in this case third. You do a history of post search, the posts appear w/a numbering system, 15 per page, but if they are using another ID, the primary ID will show gaps in postings, hehehehehehehe, cam has alot of gaps. ;D It shows thows gaps under the heading for the posts, so you can see exactly which posts are missing, hahahahahahaha.
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 25, 2006 18:48:32 GMT -8
Jfree,
Couldn't those gaps be from 'poofed' posts?
How could you tell who the other id's are?
I've never used another handle there.
Try doing a control on this and running my ID.
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Post by retire05 on Jun 25, 2006 19:10:00 GMT -8
Here is the deal on the MinuteMan Project.
I attended a meeting of the MMP in Goliad, Texas last year. I was going to join and border sit down in one of the southern most counties in Texas where the ranchers have put fences around their homes and sleep with guns because the illegals don't care if they are home or not, they still break in.
I was shocked at what I found at the meeting.
The M.C. was a Tejano (native born Tex-Mex) who could date his family in Texas back before the days of the Republic of Texas. He was also retired military. He owns a ranch in a border county and was really upset that his cattle were being slaughtered by illegals because they are hungry. Those cattle are his livelyhood. He is a rancher. He has put motion lights all over his house and barn. His wife wants to move although she grew up in that county.
Quietly sitting in the back of the room and lining the sides of the room were deputies and sheriffs from a number of counties. They did not speak they only listened.
We were told the rules of being a border watcher.
First, we had to submit to a federal background check. No one, and they were very clear about this, no one with any record of any kind other than a traffic ticket would be allowed to join. In Texas we have "gun carry permits". If you wanted to be armed, you would have to give proof of your classes on gun safety and show your "concealed weapons permit" or no way, Jose. Under no circumstances are you to have contact with the illegal. You are to immediately let your sector cheif know of a sighting and they contact the Border Patrol. Only the Border Patrol are allowed to have contact. There is one exception to that rule; if a border watcher finds a illegal in medical distress they are to let the section cheif know and a paramedic will be dispatched to try to stabilize the illegal until the ambulance can be sent by the Border Patrol.
The Goliad police were at the meeting. As well as LULAC, La Raza and a couple of rabble rousers who were trying to intimidate the people at the meething. Signs calling the MM Nazi's were there; signs calling the MM "racists". One guy came into the meeting and started shouting how these people had no right to deny illegals from coming into Texas since we stole Texas from them to begin with. The Goliad police promptly removed him.
Later I talked to one of the sheriffs from a border county. He said that he came to the meeting because he had been checking on the MM, couldn't find anything bad about them, but wanted to hear what they had to say. He said that he was going to ask them to come to his county because it was out of control and the feds would do nothing to help him.
A lot of the MinuteMan volunteers are retired law enforcement officers. I know, I talked to them in Goliad.
So SM doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. And neither does the idiots whose op-ed pieces he is posting.
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 25, 2006 19:29:38 GMT -8
ah well, Cam has fallen for the same thing he accuses us of falling for, hasn't he?
Propaganda.
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Post by jfree on Jun 25, 2006 20:13:11 GMT -8
You weren't online 101, so I tried Merc, I thought some of the threads or her posts had been deleted recently, all there perfect order, no gaps.
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 25, 2006 20:14:34 GMT -8
Hmmm. Try it again next time you see me over there.
I'm going now if you see this.
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 25, 2006 20:34:12 GMT -8
Jree, I dont' know, maybe so. Or has close friends and relatives who are? Then there are the groups, some religious, who want our govt to take care of everyone like they're a charitable organization for God. Interesting. Have you noted the religious note to some of his posts. "I happen to be a man, that for personal reasons of my own, immersed himself in the philosophical study, and understanding of God's law." "It's not me you need to worry about unloading on you. It's our Father you need to worry about, I would have thought a man in your position would be a little more circumspect in that regard. " Me"Be careful who you call a bigot. Too much use robs it of its sting. " Him"You've mistaken my purpose I'm not trying to save your soul, I'm warning others off, by showing you for what you are. " I'm sure there's more. This was just off one thread. I'm not going to bother trying again to have a sensible discussion with this Dingbat. 'Taint possible. omgosh, Religious, definitely. That's why I mentioned certain religious groups. When he's in a corner on how illegals are breaking our laws he always falls to God in some vague way. I've yet to understand it. I started a thread asking him to clarify this 'God's law' thing he keeps bringing up. We'll see where it goes. |
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 26, 2006 6:19:48 GMT -8
He's sure coming across as an arrogant, condescending little pissant, if you ask me.
Slap him around, Merc.
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 26, 2006 6:36:20 GMT -8
He's sure coming across as an arrogant, condescending little pissant, if you ask me. Slap him around, Merc. Arrogant....for sure. I'll do my best, 101. But it's not easy when I'm so sweet and easy going. |
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Post by Sailor on Jun 26, 2006 8:59:08 GMT -8
He's sure coming across as an arrogant, condescending little pissant, if you ask me. Slap him around, Merc. Arrogant....for sure. I'll do my best, 101. But it's not easy when I'm so sweet and easy going. Mrs Sailor is "sweet and easy going" too, and I take care not to piss her off. I bruise easily any more.  If you feel he needs it, give him both barrels kid. |
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Post by jfree on Jun 26, 2006 12:00:29 GMT -8
Keep on lying, we will give you unbiased reports siting government statistic, but I suppose you will claim the government statistics are racist too. Racebaiter.
Last month, upon concluding a chummy summit at the ranch with President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox exuberantly announced the availability of an unlimited number of guestworker visas for Mexican professionals to work in the United States. Though not the same as Bush's original guestworker program unveiled in January, which would offer visas to some six to ten million illegal workers, the program heralded by Fox required no new Congressional review. Known as the TN visa program, it was negotiated ten years ago as part of NAFTA. While hundreds of thousands of Canadians have used the program since 1996, the number of visas for Mexicans was capped at 5,500 until January of this year. Demand is expected to be enormous, given the vast salary differential between the United States and Mexico. U.S. consulates in Mexico are already reporting a sharp upswing in the number of applicants.
It has come as a surprise to many people, including some members of Congress, which approved the pacts, that guestworker programs are a standard component in free trade agreements such as NAFTA, the recently approved Chile and Singapore treaties, and the ongoing World Trade Organization (WTO) negotiations. (How the pending Central American Free Trade Agreement will deal with this issue remains to be seen.) Each of these pacts includes pledges from the participating countries to guarantee access for temporary business visitors, traders and multinational corporate transferees (L visas). That sounds logical, since traders need temporary access to other countries to ply their wares. What is harder to explain is the inclusion of guestworker categories whose connection to international trade is less obvious. For instance, the TN program, created by NAFTA, allows an unlimited number of Canadian and Mexican professionals to work in the United States on temporary visas, pretty much forever. The other guestworker program covered by trade agreements, the H1-B, allows in at least 65,000 foreign professionals a year under certain conditions.
As a result of these commitments, the United States has put itself on a one-way boulevard with few exits, moving toward wide-open access for foreign workers and the companies who hire them, under terms dictated by an international organization rather than our own democratically-evolving immigration laws. Without adjustments to both our planned treaty commitments and our existing dysfunctional guestworker policies, the consequences are potentially disastrous for large segments of the U.S. workforce.
There is currently no limit, the illegals here could have applied, those from Mexico, two years ago, instead they march saying we won't let them in, yet there is a program and a way. You reference old numbers to support your cause and twist reality ignoring the truth, keep spinning buddy, you are in about 20ft of mud now.
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I guess my first question is, why were the Mexicans capped at 5,500 while the Canadians had a much higher cap?
Not being snarky here. I'd really like to know.
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I'm the race baiter? You use web sites set up by well known racists and I'm a race baiter for pointing it out? All you are doing is showing how incapable of rational dialogue you are. I'm not lying to you I'm telling you the truth. Now you are what? claiming some sort of conspiracy theory? pull you head out of your arse will you, you are pathetic sounding. You are a full fledged moonbat and I'm sorry I do not nor have I ever indulged people in conspiracy theories.
He completely avoids the truth, there is NO limit on Mexican NAFTA TN permits, none, zip, zilch nada, they could all have applied two years ago, still he tries to turn it into racism. What a loser.
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