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Post by retire05 on Jun 18, 2006 9:24:59 GMT -8
The person who calls himself SpiritualMachine1 at THC forum, a.k.a. Cameron, is a weasel. Every post I made in response to him today has been deleted. SM maintains that he called me "racist" and "moonbat" as well as using profanity toward me is because of my statements on this forum about shooting people and questioning his "loyalty". Nothing is further from the truth. Research this site or as the moderator and you will learn that it has been a long time since I visited this site and have NEVER responded to SM on any thread on this site. I have provided links that shows how "illegal" immigration effects our nation adversely. SM would not respond. I have posed questions to SM. Still no response. Now today he has taken to having my posts deleted although I have violated no THC community standards. When I posted a thread demanding that SM prove where I advocated shooting people on this forum, that thread disappeared within 10 minutes. I don't know who this weasel is. But I do know that he cannot stand up to the scrutiny of my arguments and so he deletes them. This clown also threatened to post my picture on THC forum. Since I have no had my picture taken in the last 15 years I would ask SM how he intends to do that. But then, I would get no response. This person is a fake and a fraud. Someone who has a hidden agenda where illegal immigration is concerned and uses op-ed pieces and selected polls to support his argument. He is dishonest at best, and a liar at worst. While I may disagree with someone, I do not feel the need to curse at them or call them names. It diminishes the credibility of my argument. And for those who adhere to that tactic I would say "you are the grub worm and I am the salt."
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Post by MARIO on Jun 18, 2006 12:20:40 GMT -8
The guy flat out told me he works with illegals in the food service sector. He lives in Huntington, NY, which is about 30 min from where I live. That area is completely overrun with illegals.
His claims and arguments are a joke. At this point, he sounds no better than that idiot Harry Howler.
He's called almost everyone of us here bad Americans and bigots, yet he has the audacity to claim he's been mistreated. He threatened me personally by saying he could ruin my political aspirations, and then told the poster "Bounce" to "suck my dick." And the idiot wonders why he got the boot from this board.
Take care.
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Post by peterd on Jun 18, 2006 15:05:53 GMT -8
He is not the only one. Just read the comments in the THC forum. There is very large number of weasels there.
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 24, 2006 13:45:37 GMT -8
He is reacting on emotions waaay too often to make a whole lot of sense, Retire. I suspect he's lumped you in with those here who have argued against him on the issue of illegal immigration. btw, I did advocate shooting those who were crossing the border illegally.
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Post by peterd on Jun 24, 2006 14:25:20 GMT -8
We all have different views and opinions when comes to illegal immigration. However most of us agree that illegal immigration is wrong and there has to be something done about it. Sheriff in Arizona (Joe) so far has the best ideas.
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Post by Sailor on Jun 24, 2006 20:31:37 GMT -8
I made the mistake of responding to a couple of his comments, pointing out: -- Him >Now explain to me how painting all of them as criminals by the actions of a few is not an appeal to peoples fears.>
Me Perhaps you should consider, everyone of them who came here illegally or stayed after the visa or other clearance ran out IS a criminal. They violated our laws by coming here, they violate our laws by staying here. They violate our tax laws by working under the table, they certainly cannot pay income or SSI taxes without valid social security numbers and to get that they must be here legally.
Yes Cam, they are criminals. Just some more violent than others. --
Let's see here, according to him I'm a racist bigot based on my comment above.
I asked him if he wanted to debate the point or just wallow in the mud and call names.
One of the threads I posted this in (Retire's) got "GONGED" and is gone now, probably by Mr "I don't like to hit the ADVISE button myself, but have a friend who will when I ask him."
When I called him on that statement he went into another tantrum, so now I'm also a moral coward and probably child of God as well.
Now he has put up a post "Reply to Sailor" where he simply brings up the same crap again including the "They're no more criminals than you are when you drive over 55" type of nonsense.
Screw him. I'm tired and have promised to be at an assisted living home tomorrow.
'Night all.
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 24, 2006 20:59:38 GMT -8
It's kind of tough to discuss rationally when the person you're talking to continually deserts the facts for emotions.. *Now I don't want to hear any comments about women, ok?*
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Post by jfree on Jun 24, 2006 21:44:10 GMT -8
He is still there, it's like he checks in and posts another stab at everyone who disagreed w/him hourly. I am beginning to wonder if he is an illegal alien and he lied about being legal, why else would he be so freaky about it?
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 24, 2006 21:55:43 GMT -8
Jree, I dont' know, maybe so. Or has close friends and relatives who are? Then there are the groups, some religious, who want our govt to take care of everyone like they're a charitable organization for God.
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Post by retire05 on Jun 25, 2006 6:40:30 GMT -8
OK, here's the deal. The guy (SM, Cameron et al) has an agenda but does't have the honesty to admit what it is. He is now starting to reprint articles from far left wing nuts like Max Blumenthat and others from The Nation, Southery Poverty Law Center and other open border, one world organizations. I have blown this guy away so many times you think he would be in Kansas with Toto by now. But like herpes, he just keeps coming back. And to show how whacked out he is, he treatened to post my picture on THC if I didn't straighten out. Good luck on that SM. I haven't had my picture taken in 15 years. He is by far the most foul mouthed poster on THC yet they allow his posts to stand. I have started to advise his foul posts and if everyone does, maybe he will finally go away. Just who the hell is this guy?
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 25, 2006 7:27:41 GMT -8
Read his history in this forum. I've let all his posts stand even though I banned him for 30 days after he threatened other posters and refused to stop calling people nazis, racists and bigots (despite repeated warnings) because we want the laws enforced When he took his attacks to THC, I made the ban permanent.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Jun 25, 2006 10:18:26 GMT -8
I made the mistake of responding to a couple of his comments, pointing out: -- Him>Now explain to me how painting all of them as criminals by the actions of a few is not an appeal to peoples fears.> MePerhaps you should consider, everyone of them who came here illegally or stayed after the visa or other clearance ran out IS a criminal. They violated our laws by coming here, they violate our laws by staying here. They violate our tax laws by working under the table, they certainly cannot pay income or SSI taxes without valid social security numbers and to get that they must be here legally. Yes Cam, they are criminals. Just some more violent than others. -- Let's see here, according to him I'm a racist bigot based on my comment above. I asked him if he wanted to debate the point or just wallow in the mud and call names. One of the threads I posted this in (Retire's) got "GONGED" and is gone now, probably by Mr "I don't like to hit the ADVISE button myself, but have a friend who will when I ask him." When I called him on that statement he went into another tantrum, so now I'm also a moral coward and probably child of God as well. Now he has put up a post "Reply to Sailor" where he simply brings up the same crap again including the "They're no more criminals than you are when you drive over 55" type of nonsense. Screw him. I'm tired and have promised to be at an assisted living home tomorrow. 'Night all. I think I saw that thread. It's the same one where Cam stated "Blind obediance to the law is tyranny." I can only shake my head at how far gone the man has become.
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Post by 101ABN on Jun 25, 2006 10:26:27 GMT -8
He's now the political bedpartner of Harry Haller, Isgeorge, and the moonbat Rookie of the Year candidate, Spirit of 76.
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Post by Merceditas on Jun 25, 2006 10:45:47 GMT -8
I wonder why thc deleted his 'wake up merc' post? I didn't even read it, that last reply he made to me, before thc closed that thread of retires, was a tirade linking God, morality and I don't really know what else. It was a mess.......
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Post by jfree on Jun 25, 2006 11:29:54 GMT -8
I couldn't resist slamming his enforcement only thread, hehehehe
MrsRepublican
Despite the resounding failure of the 86 amnesty which granted one of the 93WTC bombing culprits and didn't live up to it's mandates at all other than to give citizenship. Now he decries the minutement who sit on the border and call border enforcement, are unarmed and only build a wall to keep out not just illegal wannabees but drugs and gangbngers. Not one illegal has been killed by the minutemen of any group, not one has even been proven to have been harmed by them, yet we have a loony calling racist, because these people only seek to protect their property and that of others as well as their countries sovreinty and keep drugs out, what an awful group of people!
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spiritualmachine1
Why do you angry people always have to mischaracterize others position. If we don't agree with your simple minded solution we are ergo amnesty only open borders nut jobs. That's just plain not true, I support a comprehensive approach to border security. I support the policies as proposed by a sitting Republican President of the United States. As for the Minutemen you are going to need to do much more than just argumentum ad hominem. I laid those hate mongers out to dry using their own words. You as usual stick to the your tried and true tactic of making excuses for the inexcusable. Did you really think I would not find out the site you linked to that you claimed was a pro-immigration site was an anti-immigration. All of you have now "jumped the shark" and are oblivious to that fact. Your concern for border security has been shown to be a shame behind which to hide racist policies. You celebrate having no bill rather than compromise. Leaving us vulnerable to a terrorist attack. Zealots never are able to understand perfect is the enemy of the good. You're not concerned with keeping islamo-fascist terrorists out. No you just want to keep those dirty diseased criminal spics out. You should hang your head in shame.
Now he has left me another opening. hehehehehe, he claims we lump him in, yet he lumps everyone else in a group..... how predictable. ;D
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