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Post by bounce on Jan 1, 2008 12:50:53 GMT -8
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth? I certainly wouldn't want your life -- there's not enough oxygen for two of you. Just two? I am bigger than that!
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Post by AmericanPride on Jan 1, 2008 12:51:00 GMT -8
Exactly jfree. It's easy for AP to throw up some second-hand comment like, "Free market economists say..." " Economists" don't have to balance the State's budget or pay the bills for all the free care the hospitals have to give illegals. " Economists" don't have to write the checks for all the welfare paid out to illegals, nor do they have to pay the expenses for all the other social welfare programs. What is an " Economist" anyway? Is there some sort of test one has to pass or a license one has to obtain to be worthy of the title " Economist? Or, as I suspect, is the term often given to bolster the credibility of some pin-head with a Leftist political agenda? I think AP uses the term Economist the way the Left uses terms like "historian," "political observer," "expert" and "scientist." When they have nothing to back up their agenda-driven point of view, they throw in a few of these types of words and start quoting these "know-it-all" types as if their opinions had some kind of validity. Ridiculous! Well, he's wrong. Don't fall for that one. Two of the best free-market economists in the country oppose this wave of illegal immigration: Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Sowell and Williams are two of how many free market economists?
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Post by AmericanPride on Jan 1, 2008 12:51:28 GMT -8
I certainly wouldn't want your life -- there's not enough oxygen for two of you. Just two? Twice the blather and twice the clatter.
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Post by MARIO on Jan 1, 2008 12:55:25 GMT -8
Well, he's wrong. Don't fall for that one. Two of the best free-market economists in the country oppose this wave of illegal immigration: Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Sowell and Williams are two of how many free market economists? They are two of the top free-market economists in the country. Indeed, as you've taken a liking to quoting Milton Friedman, you may be interested to know that both were very good friends of his. You'll also find that they aren't the only two economists who oppose illegal immigration. But I think Paul Krugman may be on your side of this issue.
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Post by bounce on Jan 1, 2008 12:59:29 GMT -8
Mario, don't bother trying to explain the facts to him.
It won't work. Believe me, I tried.
Facts only serve to confuse him.
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Post by bounce on Jan 1, 2008 14:36:32 GMT -8
Krugman - OMG!
You know, you don't find lunatics like him on just any street corner.
They must have searched pretty hard to find someone with his mental state.
I can't think of many others in the media for whom I have LESS of a regard.
I saw him once with O'Reilly on Russert. O'Reilly obliterated Krugman. He absolutely mopped the floor with him.
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Post by MARIO on Jan 1, 2008 17:09:23 GMT -8
Krugman - OMG! You know, you don't find lunatics like him on just any street corner. They must have searched pretty hard to find someone with his mental state. I can't think of many others in the media for whom I have LESS of a regard. I saw him once with O'Reilly on Russert. O'Reilly obliterated Krugman. He absolutely mopped the floor with him. I enjoyed that one - O'reilly had Krugman trembling.
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Post by 101ABN on Jan 1, 2008 17:58:47 GMT -8
I'm not sure it was O'Reilly's repartee or if he just needed a drink.
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Post by Remey688 on Jan 1, 2008 19:25:34 GMT -8
I agree with bounce!
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Post by MARIO on Jan 1, 2008 23:00:52 GMT -8
I'm not sure it was O'Reilly's repartee or if he just needed a drink. It's possible - though I think he was just scared because O'Reilly was raised his voice. Chris Hitchens - now he's an embarrassment and a mean drunk.
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Post by bounce on Jan 2, 2008 7:03:23 GMT -8
That's too bad.
I hate to see that.
I am not excusing him, but being a drunken embarrassment can't be too much fun for HIM either. I'm sure he's miserable.
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Post by 101ABN on Jan 2, 2008 7:05:08 GMT -8
"Chris Hitchens - now he's an embarrassment and a mean drunk."
Maybe we could get Hitchens and O'Reilly to go on Jerry Springer.
I'd pay to watch O'Reilly wipe the floor with that little turd.
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Post by MARIO on Jan 2, 2008 17:53:13 GMT -8
"Chris Hitchens - now he's an embarrassment and a mean drunk." Maybe we could get Hitchens and O'Reilly to go on Jerry Springer. I'd pay to watch O'Reilly wipe the floor with that little turd. Haha. He showed up to a televised debate with Dinesh D'Souza drunk. I watched as he debated Dinesh and went through his bottles of "iced tea." He was constantly shaking throughout the debate. It takes real balls to show up to a debate in that physical and mental state.
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Post by bounce on Jan 2, 2008 19:55:54 GMT -8
"Chris Hitchens - now he's an embarrassment and a mean drunk." Maybe we could get Hitchens and O'Reilly to go on Jerry Springer. I'd pay to watch O'Reilly wipe the floor with that little turd. Haha. He showed up to a televised debate with Dinesh D'Souza drunk. I watched as he debated Dinesh and went through his bottles of "iced tea." He was constantly shaking throughout the debate. It takes real balls to show up to a debate in that physical and mental state. It might take more balls for him to quit drinking completely. It's not easy when you're as sick as he obviously is. I had no idea that he drank, but when you can't get through a televised appearance without it - ON STAGE... He's clearly in need of an intervention.
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Post by jfree on Jan 3, 2008 14:04:53 GMT -8
Mexican consular sources in Phoenix say they are seeing a spike in the number of immigrants applying for Mexican citizenship for their U.S.-born children, which will allow them to enroll in schools in Mexico. They are also seeing a rise in requests for papers enabling families to carry household belongings back to Mexico, free of import duties. Members of the Brazilian community in the U.S. northeast, meanwhile, say they are starting to see an increase in the number of illegal immigrants heading back to their homes in Brazil in recent months. "They are beginning to put in the balance the constant fear of being detained and deported, and many are deciding to leave," said Fausto Mendes da Rocha, executive director of the Brazilian Immigrant Center in Boston. Other returning immigrants cite a slowdown in the U.S. economy as a factor, and the falling value of the U.S. dollar against other currencies, which has eaten into the value of remittances sent to support families at home. Aluisio Carvalho, 66, left a wife and four children behind in Brazil in 2001 when he set off to find work in Boston. Since then, he has managed to pay for the education of his children by working in a restaurant, but is now planning to leave himself in February "Salaries are really low, and living costs are high. We also face too much exploitation at work here, too many demands," he said While some illegal immigrants are simply self deporting, others are moving within the United States to avoid federal immigration raids and pro-enforcement measures passed by a patchwork of state and local authorities. Among them are undocumented immigrants in Marshalltown, Iowa, where Mexicans and Central Americans workers at a Swift & Co meatpacking plant were arrested during coordinated immigration raids across six states a year ago that netted hundreds of employees. Moses Garcia, a U.S. citizen who came from Mexico 18 years ago and knew many of the families affected by the 2006 raid through his church and real estate work, said most of the workers have left to other states, not back to Mexico. "They feel like they are not welcome here," Garcia said. "They go to Minnesota, Atlanta, Nebraska, California." In Arizona, where some specially trained sheriff's deputies already enforce immigration laws and a new state law sanctioning businesses hiring undocumented workers is due to come in to effect January 1, many illegal immigrants are eyeing a move to states they see as less hostile. Among them is day laborer Fernando Gutierrez who trekked illegally into the desert state 18 months ago from Mexico, and is now thinking of joining a cousin working in Oregon in the Pacific northwest. "Everyone lives in fear of the police stopping you for some minor infraction and then asking for your papers," Gutierrez said as he touted for work in the chill morning air at a Phoenix day labor site. "I want to get as far away from here as possible." www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2126758320071224?pageNumber=3&virtualBrandChannel=0Now thats getting results!!!
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