Were Mexican Army Members Involved In Phoenix Home

[peterd]

Interesting article. Any feedbacks?
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Were Mexican Army Members Involved In Phoenix Home Invasion and Murder ?
June 25, 2008
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Earlier today on KFYI’s The J.D. Hayworth show, Phoenix Law Enforcement Association President Mark Spencer was the guest and said that men involved in a Phoenix home invasion and murder on Monday may be current or former Mexican Army members that were hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations.

The Monday morning home invasion resulted in the death of the homeowner. When police arrived, they discovered between 50 and 100 rounds had been fired at the house.

Spencer stated that a police officer told him that one of the men captured said they were completely prepared and ready to ambush Phoenix police but they had run out of ammunition.

Phoenix Police have not confirmed the men were current or former Mexican Army members.

Sgt. Joel Tranter said one suspect revealed that he had “prior military training,” but there was “no credible evidence” that any of them were active in the military.

Listen To The Interview On The J.D. Hayworth Show

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Source - J.D. Hayworth Show

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Background Story

Six men with guns and body armor ambushed and killed a man in his Phoenix home Sunday, firing over one hundred rounds into the house.

No one else was injured. Investigators believe the house was being used to sell marijuana and the shooting was not random. Nevertheless, the large amount of ammunition alarmed authorities.

Phoenix police officials gave the following details about the case: Special Assignments Unit detectives were near the area of 83rd Avenue and Encanto Boulevard when they heard gunshots coming from a neighborhood. The detectives began to drive toward the gunshots where they were directed by neighbors to a nearby house.

Once inside the home, detectives discovered the body of Andrew Williams, 30, shot numerous times, Phoenix Police Detective Cindy Scott said.

As police searched the gunshot-riddled house they determined over 100 rounds of various calibers of ammunition were used.

Police also recovered marijuana and body armor from the house.

As more investigators came to help, they noticed a red Chevrolet Tahoe driving suspiciously in the neighborhood. Detectives followed the vehicle to 7th Street and Coronado Road where Daniel Garcia-Saenz, 24; Manual Garcia-Trejom, 25; and Rodolfo Madrigal Lopez, 19, jumped out and ran from the vehicle before being apprehended by authorities.

All three suspects were wearing law-enforcement-like body armor. Helmets and various weapons were recovered from the suspect’s vehicle.

Source - AZ Central

[Sailor]

This isn't the first or even one of the first hundred reports of Mexican military or military trained personnel committing assaults or murders.

A frigging fence isn't going to keep dudes like this out.

Short of putting the Army on the border with proper combat gear including heavy weapons and ground sensors I don't know what the answer really is.

[peterd]

One day we may not have a choice but to put National Guard on the border. What I am affraid of that people may take revenge and start shooting Mexicans on the border.

[daelf777]

I've also heard reports of Mexican military providing cover fire for drug runners trying to get back across the border.

[MrDoublel]

There are ways to supress sniper/small arms fire...unfortunately it's not an accepted practice to fire rounds in 105-155mm range across international borders. They are very effective but they tend to make the recipients rather cranky.

On a serious note, the border needs to be fixed, period. A physical and viable electronic fence. Add to that a program for those who wish to make an honest living here and we'd be pretty much set.

[tagardner]

It is likely that some ex-Mexican military are involved. After all, between the desertion rate and those terminating their military service the Mexican army is losing about 60% of its recruits each year to various criminal orgainzations. Who can blame them? The criminals pay much better.
Hell, the drug lords in Mexico ADVERTISE publically for ex-military soldiers in recruiting adds! So, I would think that some of the soldiers, particularly those with experiance in the Zona Fronteria (ie., the first 100 km into Mexico from the US) would be particularly drawn to becoming coyotes. At $1000 + a head for each illegal smuggled in successfully who can really blame them?

[peterd]

I would not say unlikely. As you know Mexican military is not a "snow white" organization. they had been known for corruption. There were many reports that mexican troops cross the border. I am sure that not everyone of these reports were totaly truthful, however evidence exists. I do agree that ex-military working for their new employer are involved in the cross-border operations. Eventually this could get ugly as anti-imigration feeling are on the rise. Usually when you put people in the corner and they don't see their way out, that's when the bullets fly and situation gets nasty.