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Post by marinecpl on Sept 11, 2011 6:33:43 GMT -8
There are somethings about the "facts" about United 93 that I don't buy.
I agree that it was hijacked and I agree that it crashed in Pennsylvania.
If the crew and passengers subdued the hijackers and took back control of the aircraft, why did it crash? Why didn't they reestablish contact and land?
I fully and completely believe that it was shot down as per the order of the Vice President. If I am right in this belief, I can only say that the order given was righteous and lawful. I believe that VP Cheney sacrificed the few to save the many.
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Post by tankcommander on Sept 11, 2011 10:49:54 GMT -8
There are somethings about the "facts" about United 93 that I don't buy. I agree that it was hijacked and I agree that it crashed in Pennsylvania. If the crew and passengers subdued the hijackers and took back control of the aircraft, why did it crash? Why didn't they reestablish contact and land? I fully and completely believe that it was shot down as per the order of the Vice President. If I am right in this belief, I can only say that the order given was righteous and lawful. I believe that VP Cheney sacrificed the few to save the many. I doubt it was shot down. The airplane almost certainly went out of control during the struggle in the cockpit. "A group of us are going to do something."— Thomas E. Burnett Jr., Thoratec Corporation senior vice president and passenger on United Airlines Flight 93, cell phone call to his wife, 11 September 2001."We're going to rush the hijackers."— Jeremy Glick, software executive and passenger on United flight 93, last reported words from his cell phone call, 11 September 2001."Are you guys ready? Let's roll."— Todd Beamer, Oracle software executive and passenger on United flight 93, last reported words from his cell phone call to Lisa Jefferson, a GTC telephone switchboard operator (he didn't want to worry his pregnant wife). They talked for 13 minutes, during which they discussed the hijacking and recited together the Lord's Prayer and Psalm 23 — 'Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me.' 11 September 2001."They're coming."— voice in Arabic, toward the to end of the United flight 93 CVR. 11 September 2001. |
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Post by peterd on Sept 11, 2011 10:58:41 GMT -8
If pilot was already dead, how many of passenger could of fly this plane. It is not easy. Second if missile would hit the plane, then hole in the ground would been much smaller because aircraft would already be in small pieces. We had to many speculations by many.
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Post by marinecpl on Sept 11, 2011 11:18:32 GMT -8
If pilot was already dead, how many of passenger could of fly this plane. It is not easy. Second if missile would hit the plane, then hole in the ground would been much smaller because aircraft would already be in small pieces. We had to many speculations by many. Listen, it's just my opinion. I also believe that the reason for the deception is for national security reasons. |
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Post by Sailor on Sept 11, 2011 11:29:21 GMT -8
None of us are absolutely certain what happened aboard Flt 93 once the passengers began rushing the cockpit. One theory is that the Islamist at the controls decided to crash the aircraft rather than allow the passengers and surviving flight crew to retake it.
I strongly doubt that the plane was shot down. It would be all but impossible to keep something like that a secret for so long even under threat of court-martial.
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Post by marinecpl on Sept 11, 2011 12:13:23 GMT -8
None of us are absolutely certain what happened aboard Flt 93 once the passengers began rushing the cockpit. One theory is that the Islamist at the controls decided to crash the aircraft rather than allow the passengers and surviving flight crew to retake it. I strongly doubt that the plane was shot down. It would be all but impossible to keep something like that a secret for so long even under threat of court-martial. If an Air Force pilot shot down a hijacked airliner under orders from the Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney, he would not face a court-martial. We all are aware that a hijacked airliner will be shot down if the hijackers refuse to safely land. If we were aware of the hijacked airliners that flew into the WTC sooner, they would have been shot down to prevent them from crashing into the WTC. That is the protocol. But again, it is simply my opinion that 93 was shot down. If the black box is made fully public and not sensored in any way and I am proven wrong, I will gladly conceed to being wrong. |
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Post by prospero on Sept 11, 2011 12:35:22 GMT -8
The max altitude attained by UA 93 that morning was approx. 40,000 feet at 09:40 EDT then beginning a rapid decent to approx. 6,000 feet at 09:57 EDT when the passengers began the attempt to retake the plane.
From that altitude at 550 mph with a decent angle of 45 degrees the plane was less than ten seconds from the ground.
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