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Post by Sailor on Sept 17, 2012 16:55:06 GMT -8
Islamists destroy tomb of Muslim saint in Mali AFP - Islamists have destroyed the tomb of a Muslim saint in a northern Mali region under their control, two months after similar incidents in the region brought widespread condemnation, sources said Monday. "The Islamists on Saturday destroyed the mausoleum of Cheik El-Kebir, 330 kilometres from Gao," a local politician told AFP on condition of anonymity. "Twelve of them arrived at the site. They demolished the mausoleum with hammers, picks." The sources said the Islamist militant Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa (MUJAO) was responsible for the destruction. More here: www.france24.com/en/20120917-islamists-destroy-tomb-muslim-saint-maliI guess the old boy wasn't the right flavor of Islam.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Sept 17, 2012 17:52:29 GMT -8
Yep, they are the true definition of intolerance. Believe what they believe completely, or die.
-DD
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Post by prospero on Sept 18, 2012 1:28:22 GMT -8
The Wahhabi teachings disapprove of veneration of the historical sites associated with early Islam, on the grounds that only God should be worshipped and that veneration of sites associated with mortals leads to idolatry. Many buildings associated with early Islam, including mazaar, mausoleums and other artifacts have been destroyed in Saudi Arabia by Wahhabis from early 19th century through the present day. This practice has proved controversial and has received considerable criticism from Sunni and Shia Muslims and in the non-Muslim World.
Some Salafists native to North Africa have very similar beliefs, and it was probaly some of them who destroyed the Mausoleum.
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Post by Sailor on Sept 18, 2012 6:55:52 GMT -8
The Wahhabi teachings disapprove of veneration of the historical sites associated with early Islam, on the grounds that only God should be worshipped and that veneration of sites associated with mortals leads to idolatry. Many buildings associated with early Islam, including mazaar, mausoleums and other artifacts have been destroyed in Saudi Arabia by Wahhabis from early 19th century through the present day. This practice has proved controversial and has received considerable criticism from Sunni and Shia Muslims and in the non-Muslim World. Some Salafists native to North Africa have very similar beliefs, and it was probaly some of them who destroyed the Mausoleum. I wonder then if the Kabaa Central Mosque in Mecca would be in danger from Wahhabi and Salafi Muslims if the Saudi's blew off their self appointed security responsibilities. This is THE holiest site in all Islam and the central feature preserved inside that screened cube is a damned meteor or rock (take your pick.) |
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Post by prospero on Sept 18, 2012 8:30:45 GMT -8
The Wahhabi teachings disapprove of veneration of the historical sites associated with early Islam, on the grounds that only God should be worshipped and that veneration of sites associated with mortals leads to idolatry. Many buildings associated with early Islam, including mazaar, mausoleums and other artifacts have been destroyed in Saudi Arabia by Wahhabis from early 19th century through the present day. This practice has proved controversial and has received considerable criticism from Sunni and Shia Muslims and in the non-Muslim World. Some Salafists native to North Africa have very similar beliefs, and it was probaly some of them who destroyed the Mausoleum. I wonder then if the Kabaa Central Mosque in Mecca would be in danger from Wahhabi and Salafi Muslims if the Saudi's blew off their self appointed security responsibilities. This is THE holiest site in all Islam and the central feature preserved inside that screened cube is a damned meteor or rock (take your pick.) The Saudi Government is made up of Wahhabists, but even they are not brazen enough to touch some of the old places. They also sort of claim that by building new structures around the old sites that they are not old sites anymore, or some such tripe. |
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Post by dustdevil28 on Sept 18, 2012 14:02:51 GMT -8
The Wahhabi teachings disapprove of veneration of the historical sites associated with early Islam, on the grounds that only God should be worshipped and that veneration of sites associated with mortals leads to idolatry. Many buildings associated with early Islam, including mazaar, mausoleums and other artifacts have been destroyed in Saudi Arabia by Wahhabis from early 19th century through the present day. This practice has proved controversial and has received considerable criticism from Sunni and Shia Muslims and in the non-Muslim World. Some Salafists native to North Africa have very similar beliefs, and it was probaly some of them who destroyed the Mausoleum. I wonder then if the Kabaa Central Mosque in Mecca would be in danger from Wahhabi and Salafi Muslims if the Saudi's blew off their self appointed security responsibilities. This is THE holiest site in all Islam and the central feature preserved inside that screened cube is a damned meteor or rock (take your pick.) Nah, the Kaba is central to all islamic faiths. They all believe in praying towards Mecca and conducting the Hajj as part of a religious rite. Even the most exteme don't see this as idolotry, they see it as true worship so I don't see that as any real danger. I remember a story one of my work colleges told awhile back about some relatives who made the Hajj. Apparently they visited the actual grave for Mohammed and this person's father was so awed to be this close to his prophet that he started looking to the sky and saying a quiet prayer only to have one of the Saudi guards nearby lightly tap him with a rod and reminding him prayers for individual religious figures is not allowed. My point is the guard was upholding the wahhabi belief in not venerating religious saints, so I don't think their guard duty really prevents any actual danger to the sites. -DD |
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Post by Sailor on Sept 18, 2012 18:02:23 GMT -8
I wonder then if the Kabaa Central Mosque in Mecca would be in danger from Wahhabi and Salafi Muslims if the Saudi's blew off their self appointed security responsibilities. This is THE holiest site in all Islam and the central feature preserved inside that screened cube is a damned meteor or rock (take your pick.) Nah, the Kaba is central to all islamic faiths. They all believe in praying towards Mecca and conducting the Hajj as part of a religious rite. Even the most exteme don't see this as idolotry, they see it as true worship so I don't see that as any real danger. I remember a story one of my work colleges told awhile back about some relatives who made the Hajj. Apparently they visited the actual grave for Mohammed and this person's father was so awed to be this close to his prophet that he started looking to the sky and saying a quiet prayer only to have one of the Saudi guards nearby lightly tap him with a rod and reminding him prayers for individual religious figures is not allowed. My point is the guard was upholding the wahhabi belief in not venerating religious saints, so I don't think their guard duty really prevents any actual danger to the sites. -DD Thanks DD. Data, grist for the mill. |
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