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Post by cameron on Jan 18, 2006 14:36:04 GMT -8
We'll do this by the numbers, they said "Imminent threat" do you disagree that they ever said Iraq was an imminent threat? Yes
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Post by stratagosv on Jan 18, 2006 14:41:04 GMT -8
...Is that a 'yes' I agree it was said or a 'yes' I disagree it was ever said?
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Post by cameron on Jan 18, 2006 14:47:19 GMT -8
Strat you seem to think I don't already know what you have up your sleeve. I am saying not one single policy maker ever claimed we were under an imminent threat of attack. You are going to bring up the press secretary who mis-spoke right I give up your either to stupid to get or to ideologically blind believe whatever you want but no thinking person is ever going to buy into your crap and it isn't going down in the history books that way strat. No serious intellect has ever even made this moonbat fantasy argument. It is a weak attempt to re-write recent history.
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Post by stratagosv on Jan 18, 2006 14:50:08 GMT -8
Cameron, I can say that bush mispoke when he said urgent, and that he meant to say imminent, let the facts lie, if you're going to ignore everything that goes against your views as "mistakes" you'll never make any progress.
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Post by cameron on Jan 18, 2006 14:53:42 GMT -8
Cameron, I can say that bush mispoke when he said urgent, and that he meant to say imminent, let the facts lie, if you're going to ignore everything that goes against your views as "mistakes" you'll never make any progress. I'm not ignoring anything Strat I lived through it and know the arguments intimately since I was making them and engaged in them at the time. To have some twit like you tell me that the administration was making an argument they manifestly rejected is too fucking much. The fact that in an address to the nation the President rejected the idea and stated outright that we could not wait for a threat to become imminent, doesn't even slow you down. You are the one ignoring reality and you'll never make any progress.
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Post by stratagosv on Jan 18, 2006 15:06:37 GMT -8
Oooooh you never told me you LIVED through it, lol we're not talkin woodstock here Interesting, this seems to be your set off catalyst, you're cool calm an collective until I mention the quotes. Look, cam, sorry man, the press secretary DID say Iraq was an imminent threat, you can't get around that no matter how hard you try, "oh it was a mistake" well NOW it is when they're trying to argue that they never said any such thing. But it wasn't a big enough mistake to say it TWICE along with Rumsfeld arguing the same point. Now, once the media gets a hold on the word "imminent" all the administration does is NOT correct them, and dance around with synonyms. Don't get mad at me, I didn't say it, So calm yourself
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Post by stratagosv on Jan 18, 2006 15:08:43 GMT -8
Oooooh you never told me you LIVED through it, lol we're not talkin woodstock here Interesting, this seems to be your set off catalyst, you're cool calm an collective until I mention the quotes. Look, cam, sorry man, the press secretary DID say Iraq was an imminent threat, you can't get around that no matter how hard you try, "oh it was a mistake" well NOW it is when they're trying to argue that they never said any such thing. But it wasn't a big enough mistake to say it TWICE along with Rumsfeld arguing the same point. Now, once the media gets a hold on the word "imminent" all the administration does is NOT correct them, and dance around with synonyms. Oh but wait! Bush said it wasn't an imminent threat...yet in a speech once! So what? You telling me that hides everything else? Don't get mad at me, I didn't say it, So calm yourself
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Post by cameron on Jan 18, 2006 15:21:04 GMT -8
Oooooh you never told me you LIVED through it, lol we're not talkin woodstock here Interesting, this seems to be your set off catalyst, you're cool calm an collective until I mention the quotes. Look, cam, sorry man, the press secretary DID say Iraq was an imminent threat, you can't get around that no matter how hard you try, "oh it was a mistake" well NOW it is when they're trying to argue that they never said any such thing. But it wasn't a big enough mistake to say it TWICE along with Rumsfeld arguing the same point. Now, once the media gets a hold on the word "imminent" all the administration does is NOT correct them, and dance around with synonyms. Don't get mad at me, I didn't say it, So calm yourself There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. You are a fool. IMMINENT THREAT has a specific meaning that the administration did not make the case for war based on an imminent threat is on objective fact strat. Engage your brain for crying out loud. They would have been asked to identify the threat. They said explicitly that we could not wait for a threat to become imminent before taking action that is a fact Strat. Like I said no one with a lick of sense that was for or against the war makes this claim. This is nothing but ludicrous bullshit that is echoed in moonbat caves.
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Post by stratagosv on Jan 18, 2006 15:33:56 GMT -8
They said Iraq was an imminent threat, you can't deny THAT no matter how hard you try. Been asked to identify the threat...remember when Powell went to make the case with war in Iraq... Now, you lived through it so can you remind my rusty memory? Bush said they couldn't wait for it to become imminent once.... I got more then one quote of the adminstration saying it was, 2-1=1
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Post by cameron on Jan 18, 2006 15:36:50 GMT -8
They said Iraq was an imminent threat, you can't deny THAT no matter how hard you try. Been asked to identify the threat...remember when Powell went to make the case with war in Iraq... Now, you lived through it so can you remind my rusty memory? Bush said they couldn't wait for it to become imminent once.... I got more then one quote of the adminstration saying it was, 2-1=1 Are you even interested in the truth?
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Post by MARIO on Jan 18, 2006 15:37:53 GMT -8
LOL yeah, I was wondering if it was awkward getting BAPs when you're as old as toejam... He's a happily married man. I'm not going to send him that crap.
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Post by stratagosv on Jan 18, 2006 15:43:19 GMT -8
lol mario, I don't mind it though! Oh, and cam, we'll never get any further, you see, "it was a mistake" is not a good enough explanation for me, and if that's all you got you'll never convince me. Now, you DO remember Powell making the case for Iraq don't you?
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Post by cameron on Jan 18, 2006 15:52:48 GMT -8
lol mario, I don't mind it though! Oh, and cam, we'll never get any further, you see, "it was a mistake" is not a good enough explanation for me, and if that's all you got you'll never convince me. Now, you DO remember Powell making the case for Iraq don't you? Strat you are an ideologue who refuses to consider facts that refute your beliefs. You are also rather simple and uneducated that to is obvious. I suppose that is why you are open to such demagoguery A press secretary mis-speaks and for you that is proof. That the entire administration rejects the idea that we can wait for a threat to become imminent means nothing. The opponents of the administration criticize it by saying that they have not made the case for war because they need to make an imminent threat argument means nothing. You are an ignorant man are destined to remain that way until you let go of your ignorant prejudices. I'm done with ya not gonna wast any more time with someone not interested in the truth but is more interested in scoring child like debate points.
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Post by stratagosv on Jan 18, 2006 16:22:53 GMT -8
lol mario, I don't mind it though! Oh, and cam, we'll never get any further, you see, "it was a mistake" is not a good enough explanation for me, and if that's all you got you'll never convince me. Now, you DO remember Powell making the case for Iraq don't you? Strat you are an ideologue who refuses to consider facts that refute your beliefs. I'm afraid you're projecting yourself cameron You are also rather simple and uneducated that to is obvious. I suppose that is why you are open to such demagoguery A press secretary mis-speaks and for you that is proof. That the entire administration rejects the idea that we can wait for a threat to become imminent means nothing. The opponents of the administration criticize it by saying that they have not made the case for war because they need to make an imminent threat argument means nothing. You are an ignorant man are destined to remain that way until you let go of your ignorant prejudices. I'm done with ya not gonna wast any more time with someone not interested in the truth but is more interested in scoring child like debate points. Aside from the ONE quote by bush in one speech what else do you got? Liberal websites? Please, you HONESTLY think that's all you need to convince someone? I have no interest in "scoring child like debate points" this debate has only gone on this far because you 1) simply right off facts that go against your pre concieved notion and 2) you refuse to answer my questions, instead you repeat what you say over and over again, why don't you just answer my questions, that's the key to convincing me.
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Post by cameron on Jan 18, 2006 16:32:13 GMT -8
lol mario, I don't mind it though! Oh, and cam, we'll never get any further, you see, "it was a mistake" is not a good enough explanation for me, and if that's all you got you'll never convince me. Now, you DO remember Powell making the case for Iraq don't you? Strat you are an ideologue who refuses to consider facts that refute your beliefs. I'm afraid you're projecting yourself cameron You are also rather simple and uneducated that to is obvious. I suppose that is why you are open to such demagoguery A press secretary mis-speaks and for you that is proof. That the entire administration rejects the idea that we can wait for a threat to become imminent means nothing. The opponents of the administration criticize it by saying that they have not made the case for war because they need to make an imminent threat argument means nothing. You are an ignorant man are destined to remain that way until you let go of your ignorant prejudices. I'm done with ya not gonna wast any more time with someone not interested in the truth but is more interested in scoring child like debate points. Aside from the ONE quote by bush in one speech what else do you got? Liberal websites? Please, you HONESTLY think that's all you need to convince someone? I have no interest in "scoring child like debate points" this debate has only gone on this far because you 1) simply right off facts that go against your pre concieved notion and 2) you refuse to answer my questions, instead you repeat what you say over and over again, why don't you just answer my questions, that's the key to convincing me. What constitutes an IMMINENT THREAT? You know what forget it wollow in your ignorance I don't care.
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