your turn strat

[stratagosv]

MY ignorance? I'm just going by what I read, I read "imminent threat" I think "imminent threat" I read Iraq can at any time develope a shit load of bio chem weapons and use it on us, I think "threat" I here "urgent threat" and "most dangerous enemy on earth today" and think maybe they're trying to tell me something. Rumsfeld told me he's not so sure iraq isn't an imminent threat... so ... yeah my ignorance, where on earth did I get my ideas? They must have just appeared out of thin air!

Oh, and my apologies, a simple "he mispoke" should prove to ANY rational person that you're right, what was I thinking? LOL if you want to learn how to do this right, quite watching FOX and take a logic and critical thinking 101 at a junior college or somethin'

[cameron]

stratagosv said:

MY ignorance? I'm just going by what I read, I read "imminent threat" I think "imminent threat" I read Iraq can at any time develope a shit load of bio chem weapons and use it on us, I think "threat" I here "urgent threat" and "most dangerous enemy on earth today" and think maybe they're trying to tell me something. Rumsfeld told me he's not so sure iraq isn't an imminent threat... so ... yeah my ignorance, where on earth did I get my ideas? They must have just appeared out of thin air!

Oh, and my apologies, a simple "he mispoke" should prove to ANY rational person that you're right, what was I thinking? LOL if you want to learn how to do this right, quite watching FOX and take a logic and critical thinking 101 at a junior college or somethin'

I've been a student of politics and political philosophy for 25 some odd years don't presume to tell me were I get my ideas from when all you do is regurgitate discredited moonbat propaganda as though it had any basis in reality your an ignorant fool. Who takes pride in being ignorant imminent threat has a specific meaning that you don't even understand. Don't talk down to me asshole.

And ya your ignorance asshole you arent going by what you've read the press secratery even said he mis-spoke you havent looked into this honestly in search of truth all you've done is look for whaever will support your preconceived conclusions. Your the mind numbed idiot.

[stratagosv]

I'm not presuming anything... I'm suming I'm not "regurgitating discredited moonbat propoganda" I'm quoting the administration. Once again, it seems you're projecting.

You can call me "dumb" all you want, the quotes won't disapear, and if you want to prove your point, simply saying "he mispoke" is not adaquate.

Clinton "mispoke" when he said "I did not have sexual relations with that women" he just mispoke... wow, I like your way of arguing!

[cameron]

stratagosv said:

I'm not presuming anything... I'm suming I'm not "regurgitating discredited moonbat propoganda" I'm quoting the administration. Once again, it seems you're projecting.

You can call me "dumb" all you want, the quotes won't disapear, and if you want to prove your point, simply saying "he mispoke" is not adaquate.

Clinton "mispoke" when he said "I did not have sexual relations with that women" he just mispoke... wow, I like your way of arguing!

OMG, how dense are you? This is incredibly annoying Strat, because the point has been made by me over and over again. I don't get, what it is you don't get. Your quotes mean what to you? I've repeatedly told you they were made in the course of making the case that Saddam presented a threat.

An imminent threat means an attack is in the works and on the way Strat. The administration did not make that case and in fact rejected the idea that we needed to wait for a threat to become imminent. It has been shown to you that those opposed to the war criticized the administration for not making an imminent threat case but instead proposing a preemptive war. This means nothing to you, because you have quotes of the administration making the case that Saddam was a threat, like I said you are either stupid or willfully ignorant These are facts that most people don't have a hard time recognizing, and that no one seriously disputes. That you can not wrap your pea brain around this simple fact, and continue to regurgitate a moonbat cry exposes you as one.

[stratagosv]

Yawn. You show a quote and say mine don't matter, I show you a quote and tell you yours doesn't matter, are you getting tired yet?

[cameron]

stratagosv said:

Yawn. You show a quote and say mine don't matter, I show you a quote and tell you yours doesn't matter, are you getting tired yet?

This is what I mean by your simple minded and childish out look, and tired isn't even close to the feeling of contempt I feel toward such bull headed stupidity. I have not said your quotes do not matter then nothing else but I've said that they were made making the case that Iraq was a threat. I've also explained to you the argument that was being had at the time before we went to war that also refutes your claim. I've explained how this moonbat meme came into existence. What I've explained to you is not in dispute with anyone with a brain on either side of the issue of war. Like I said wallow in your ignorance.


You know I was talking to my brother about you and he asked why even bother who cares what some idiot thinks. Everyone else here at the post has given up on you as well. Now you can count me as someone who thinks your lack of an ability to be honest with your self most of all puts you beyond the realm of reasoned discourse. I really am done now strat. I really can't make it any easier to understand than I have. If you don't get it, then it can only be because you don't want to. You win now go brag to friends.

[stratagosv]

You said "he mispoke, so what?" uhuh, well guess what? I don't think he did. You want to know where people got the idea of "imminent threat?" Because the ADMINISTRATION said it, and its right there in front of you whether you want to see it or not.

For someone who's trying to prove that the administration DIDN'T argue an imminent threat... you sure don't provide any evidence, I mean all you've done is repeated "bush said bla bla bla in this speech!" Come on, you want to prove your point, show me somethin.

...why you were talking about me in your private life...kinda creepy, I can assure you that is completely one sided.

[cameron]

stratagosv said:

You said "he mispoke, so what?" uhuh, well guess what? I don't think he did. You want to know where people got the idea of "imminent threat?" Because the ADMINISTRATION said it, and its right there in front of you whether you want to see it or not.

For someone who's trying to prove that the administration DIDN'T argue an imminent threat... you sure don't provide any evidence, I mean all you've done is repeated "bush said bla bla bla in this speech!" Come on, you want to prove your point, show me somethin.

...why you were talking about me in your private life...kinda creepy, I can assure you that is completely one sided.

Don't provide evidence? The President specifically rejected the idea but no that doesn't count. A web site that was opposed to the invasion that specifically refutes your claim but no that's not good enough. You don't even address these facts you just stick to your I have a quote bull. Strat honest debate isn't possible unless your willing to be honest,your not.

[stratagosv]

Cameron, just stop and think for maybe 10 seconds, try switching views, what if we were talking about a democrat here, what if this was clinton? Do you REALLY think one speech and one random website is evidence enough to prove your case? If I find a website that says the opposite that means we BOTH have a quote and a website, you need MORE in order to prove your point, its just not enough period.

[cameron]

stratagosv said:

Cameron, just stop and think for maybe 10 seconds, try switching views, what if we were talking about a democrat here, what if this was clinton? Do you REALLY think one speech and one random website is evidence enough to prove your case? If I find a website that says the opposite that means we BOTH have a quote and a website, you need MORE in order to prove your point, its just not enough period.

One random speech? Strat random means without definite aim, direction, rule, or method. In the speech he specifically refuted the critisism that were being made at that time, by those opposed to going to war with Iraq. Stat one radom web site? I see you lied when you said you were going to do research becouse that is what all of the anti-war types were saying at that time. Go do your research!!!!

[stratagosv]

Cameron, I find it hard to believe that you think you have sufficient information to prove your case it's very telling if what you provided here, would be enough to convince yourself.

[cameron]

stratagosv said:

Cameron, I find it hard to believe that you think you have sufficient information to prove your case it's very telling if what you provided here, would be enough to convince yourself.

For the vast majority of people the quote of the President explicitly rejecting the idea is more than enough. I've given you even more showing you that those opposed to the war were upset because there was not an imminent threat case being made. That you refuse to see only means you don't want to.

[stratagosv]

One quote from ONE speech that goes against many PREVIOUS quotes from the administration

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Good enough for you right?

[cameron]

This is like describing color to a blind man. Strat what constitutes an imminent threat? Do you even know?