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Post by outsydr on Feb 1, 2006 9:15:39 GMT -8
Read hereLooks like the first heads to officially roll will come from higher up the ladder than many of us expected (or held blame to).
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Post by cameron on Feb 1, 2006 11:48:11 GMT -8
Read hereLooks like the first heads to officially roll will come from higher up the ladder than many of us expected (or held blame to).
Louisiana Turned Down Katrina Help For EvacuationsA new memo has surfaced from the investigation into the response to Hurricane Katrina which shows that state and local officials turned down federal help in evacuating hospitals and nursing homes until it was too late:
www.breitbart.comA ranking Louisiana health official turned down federal offers to help move or evacuate patients as Hurricane Katrina bore down on New Orleans, a newly released document shows.
But the state's top medical officer said Louisiana coordinated with the federal Health and Human Services Department in evacuating hospitals and nursing homes after Katrina hit.
Two days before the Aug. 29 storm, HHS was told by the state's health emergency preparedness director that the help was not needed, according to an e-mail released Monday by a Senate panel investigating the government's response to Katrina.
The state official, identified in the Aug. 27 e-mail as Dr. Roseanne Pratts, "responded no, that they do not require anything at this time and they would be in touch if and when they needed assistance," wrote HHS senior policy analyst Erin Fowler.Once again, the evidence for the failure of emergency relief in Louisiana keeps pointing back to the state and local officials who responded without referencing their own emergency plans, who left assets to sink under the flood waters, and who sat around pointing fingers and mouthing off to the cameras instead of doing their jobs. Their refusal to ask for federal help -- indeed, for telling the feds that no help was necessary -- cost dozens of lives.
These investigations will not make Ray Nagin or Kathleen Blanco look good. If the Exempt Media gives it any kind of coverage at all, it will recast the Katrina relief story significantly, and to the detriment of their reputations. |
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Post by bounce on Feb 1, 2006 13:08:47 GMT -8
I didn't read this report - yet...
However, we lost our house and all our belongings in Hurricane Andrew.
After the storm hit, it took at least 5 days for the cavalry to get there.
That was during the Clinton admin and I don't recall everyone screaming for his head.
Nagin had a plan, he had the means to get those people out. What he didn't do was ACT! He has NO leadership ability whatsoever. He was elected because of the color of his skin and his ability to win popularity contests, NOT BECAUSE of his suitability for office. His consitiuents DIED because of his incompetence!
Louisiana has one of the MOST corrupt political organizations in this country.
How many times are we going to have to pay for those levees?
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Post by bounce on Feb 1, 2006 13:13:33 GMT -8
AND ANOTHER THING...
To the wackos who think Bush intensified Katrina...
There have been 23 category 5 hurricanes dating back to 1928.
Hurricane ANDREW (which hit during the Clinton Administration) was a category 5.
Katrina probably made landfall at about a Category 3 strength - it was certainly mo more than a cat 4.
Bush can't make the wind blow!
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Post by outsydr on Feb 1, 2006 15:30:05 GMT -8
Read hereLooks like the first heads to officially roll will come from higher up the ladder than many of us expected (or held blame to).
Louisiana Turned Down Katrina Help For EvacuationsA new memo has surfaced from the investigation into the response to Hurricane Katrina which shows that state and local officials turned down federal help in evacuating hospitals and nursing homes until it was too late:
www.breitbart.comA ranking Louisiana health official turned down federal offers to help move or evacuate patients as Hurricane Katrina bore down on New Orleans, a newly released document shows.
But the state's top medical officer said Louisiana coordinated with the federal Health and Human Services Department in evacuating hospitals and nursing homes after Katrina hit.
Two days before the Aug. 29 storm, HHS was told by the state's health emergency preparedness director that the help was not needed, according to an e-mail released Monday by a Senate panel investigating the government's response to Katrina.
The state official, identified in the Aug. 27 e-mail as Dr. Roseanne Pratts, "responded no, that they do not require anything at this time and they would be in touch if and when they needed assistance," wrote HHS senior policy analyst Erin Fowler.Once again, the evidence for the failure of emergency relief in Louisiana keeps pointing back to the state and local officials who responded without referencing their own emergency plans, who left assets to sink under the flood waters, and who sat around pointing fingers and mouthing off to the cameras instead of doing their jobs. Their refusal to ask for federal help -- indeed, for telling the feds that no help was necessary -- cost dozens of lives.
These investigations will not make Ray Nagin or Kathleen Blanco look good. If the Exempt Media gives it any kind of coverage at all, it will recast the Katrina relief story significantly, and to the detriment of their reputations.Thanks for the quote from someone's blog, cameron. I just got done reading the link you provided. You might want to investigate that, too. It shows that although this "high ranking" official did decline at at the time, HHS was still working with Louisianna health personnel on the eve of the disaster. So SOMEONE must have hooted for help, if not Dr. Pratts. I congratulate you for your timely offer, but it doesn't prove anything. One member of the entire Louisianna Dept. of Health team, apparently sending an email saying 'We don't require assistance at this time' could mean anything. Since they haven't released the full text of the discussion, she could have been declining aid to carry the pizzas up from the reception desk for all we know... |
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Post by cameron on Feb 1, 2006 17:47:58 GMT -8
Hahahaha
You guys are so predictable, riiiiiight who knows? that doesn't mean anything!!!
unless of course it supports your thesis.
You have not refuted anything.
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Post by bounce on Feb 1, 2006 17:56:45 GMT -8
What is it, exactly, you want an argument about?
What's to refute?
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Post by cameron on Feb 1, 2006 18:06:34 GMT -8
What is it, exactly, you want an argument about? What's to refute? I contend that it was the state and local authorities that were for the most part responsible for the debacle in NOLA. Outsydr thinks the investigation will hurt the feds I say it will hurt the locals more. |
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Post by bounce on Feb 1, 2006 18:08:40 GMT -8
Hahahaha You guys are so predictable, riiiiiight who knows? that doesn't mean anything!!! unless of course it supports your theisis. You have not refuted anything. Are you trying to say that Bush sucks, America sucks, FEMA sucks and/or Chertoff sucks??? You obviously have never been in the military. We used to have Readiness exercises ALL THE TIME. We practiced and practiced and practiced. The post-exercise reports were ALWAYS BRUTAL. You guys screwed THIS up and you screwed THAT up. The reports were inches thick! To look at something like this and come to the conclusion that Bush sucks, America sucks, FEMA sucks and/or Chertoff sucks is ridiculous. If you're looking for a scape-goat THAT SUPPORTS YOUR THESIS, then WOW MAN I'd take this one and RUN WITH IT! All I need to see is the photo of the hundreds of school buses UNDERWATER along side the plan that described how the Mayor was supposed to get his constituents out via the City's many school buses... Blame it on Chertoff if it makes sense to you ( and fits your thesis). |
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Post by bounce on Feb 1, 2006 18:09:43 GMT -8
What is it, exactly, you want an argument about? What's to refute? I contend that it was the state and local authorities that were for the most part responsible for the debacle in NOLA. Outsydr thinks the investigation will hurt the feds I say it will hurt the locals more. OK, I'm sorry. I misunderstood you. I apologize. Bounce |
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Post by cameron on Feb 1, 2006 18:11:09 GMT -8
Hahahaha What are you apologizing for?  |
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Post by bounce on Feb 1, 2006 18:12:17 GMT -8
Hahahaha What are you apologizing for? It's outsydr I think I meant that post for. Then again, maybe not. I'm just tired. |
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Post by cameron on Feb 1, 2006 18:13:45 GMT -8
Oh sorry, I guess I'm misunderstanding something.
Oppsy just went back and read the posts. You and I are on the same side. Come on now we need to get our order of battle straight.
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Post by MARIO on Feb 1, 2006 18:14:28 GMT -8
Hahahaha What are you apologizing for? It's outsydr I think I meant that post for. Bob, Cameron is a Conservative Republican. Out is the lefty here! Go after him..lol |
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Post by cameron on Feb 1, 2006 18:17:06 GMT -8
Hahahahaha  |
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