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Post by youngstown on May 28, 2007 8:11:30 GMT -8
The Contempt the Clinton's and his administration had for Vietnam Veterans was most clearly shown when they allowed the "Unknown Soldier...Known but to God" to be disinterred and identified. Along with this desecration, the MOH which was given to the Vietnam Unknowns was also removed from Arlington. Scientists, at the time, said all the Unknowns can be identified through DNA Studies. The Vietnam Unknown was the only one chosen to be positively identified. The MOH is given to all the Unknowns on behalf of all those whose UNRECOGNIZED bravery also deserved the MOH.....but due to Death of potential recipient and witness....did not. The Republicans in the Judiciary Committee, half righted the wrong by returning the MOH to Arlington on behalf of the UNKNOWN Hero's of Vietnam.
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Post by 101ABN on May 28, 2007 9:10:21 GMT -8
As strongly as I felt when our Vietnam Unknown was interred, I absolutely agree that IDing his remains and returning them to his family was the right thing to do. I don't believe it was motivated by any ill will from the Clinton administration
Advancements in DNA testing make it likely that there will not be another "American Soldier, known but to God" interred at the Tomb of the Unknowns.
Returning the MOH also honors the 2000+ who remain MIA and unaccounted for, also the right thing to do, IMO.
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Post by youngstown on May 28, 2007 9:43:27 GMT -8
ABN: I disagree, any one of the Unknown's could be identified! The Media sob story, focused on Vietnam at a time when it was still popular to "Trash Vietnam Vets." The remains were "Known but to God", and should have remained so, compromising information not withstanding. The removal of the MOH was an ignorant move, which followed an ignorant move. IMHO.  POW/MIA are only 2 of the reasons the MOH resides with the Unknown. |
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Post by youngstown on May 28, 2007 9:51:36 GMT -8
Perhaps there should be a MOH at Arlington for cetrain classes of Veterans, such as The Gulf Wars, 1 & 2? The tomb of the Unknowns is not an honorable place for a brother to be buried? Stinks of intrigue to me.
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Post by 101ABN on May 28, 2007 10:18:04 GMT -8
You're reading too much into it.
If the remains are identified it flies in the face of the concept of "known but to God."
Also, it hasn't been fashionable to trash Vietnam Vets since the 80's, except in certain small circles of academia. I think your attribution of ill will as a motivator is unwarranted.
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Post by dustdevil28 on May 28, 2007 11:31:52 GMT -8
I'll place the added solace of a family over a countries need for a symbol. The MOH should remain with the group of MIA's, but I don't see any good argument that allows for a family to not know the fate of their loved one.
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Post by youngstown on May 28, 2007 13:19:19 GMT -8
ABN/Battle: The family knows, after the fact! Is there a more honorable place to leave a brother than at the tomb of the Unknown? The Korean Unknown could be found if a handful of families whished......they don't. I think Media pressure and exposure resulted in a MOH being dishonored, even for a short time. Dan Burton and the Judiciary committee nipped half the problem in the bud. The ignorance of the Clinton Administration and George Cohen in particular, in hindsight, deserves to be addressed.
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Post by 101ABN on May 28, 2007 14:50:07 GMT -8
Water under the bridge, YT.
His remains were returned to the family, and appropriately so.
You are free to disagree, but I've said all I'll say on the matter.
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Post by youngstown on May 28, 2007 16:34:41 GMT -8
Water under the bridge, YT. His remains were returned to the family, and appropriately so. You are free to disagree, but I've said all I'll say on the matter. Just a little sidebar for history......it shouldn't be ignored. A varied observation, that deserves the light of day. |
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Post by Remey688 on May 30, 2007 14:25:22 GMT -8
Perhaps there should be a MOH at Arlington for cetrain classes of Veterans, such as The Gulf Wars, 1 & 2? The tomb of the Unknowns is not an honorable place for a brother to be buried? Stinks of intrigue to me. This is not true. The Tomb of The Unknown Solider is a high holy place for Americans who know our country's history, and whose families have been a part of it. God Bless all our living WWII Vets. The youngest possible WWII Vets are 79 this year. |
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Post by youngstown on Jun 6, 2007 13:05:39 GMT -8
Remey688: I agree with you! There was a question mark regarding "an honorable place to be buried". That's why I questioned disinterning one of the unknowns.
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Post by MrDoublel on Jun 21, 2007 6:35:51 GMT -8
The bottom line is he was no longer "...Known but to God." He was identified and was returned to his family. Being that he was ID'ed eliminates him from being intured at the Tomb of the Unknowns. There is no dishonor in his being disentured, quite the opposite IMHO.
Incidentally, I was in DC the first week of June and we were able to spend a couple hours at Arlington. It's been decades since I was last there and it was nice to pay my respects to all there.
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Post by pops on Jun 21, 2007 9:00:29 GMT -8
The sole reason for the Tomb of the Unknown is to honor those who are known only to God. Once the soldier is identified he is no longer Unknown. I believe it honors him more by being re-interned with his name on the marker. I hope we never have another Unknown.
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Post by MrDoublel on Jun 22, 2007 7:11:38 GMT -8
I doubt we ever will have any more Unknowns. DNA has put an end to that.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Jun 22, 2007 11:12:00 GMT -8
I doubt we ever will have any more Unknowns. DNA has put an end to that. Amen |
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POW/MIA are only 2 of the reasons the MOH resides with the Unknown.
