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Post by 101ABN on Oct 9, 2005 21:44:58 GMT -8
Many years ago, when my drugging, drinking and other insanities were raging I had the good sense to sell off all my firearms.
Maybe I just needed the money, but more likely some part of me knew that if I kept on the road I was going, I was headed for a bad ending.
Observing the total breakdown of civil authority in New Orleans after Katrina hit caused me to sit up and take notice.
Surprisingly, Mrs. 101 who is as far from an NRA life-member as you can get, did not object when I stated my intention to "re-arm."
To make a long story short, I 'm taking delivery of a Remington 870, 12ga riot gun on Tuesday, which will be equipped with a heat shield, folding stock, a tactical light and a sling.
I have a gunsafe on the way that will keep the ammo and the handguns (not purchased yet) away from the curious eyes and hands of the grandkids.
Guess that's about as full circle as it gets.
This forum is a place for others to share their thoughts on the one amendment that guarantees the preservation of all the others.
What a world we live in!
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Post by tits on Oct 10, 2005 16:15:57 GMT -8
Here in the Show-Me-State, we have the right to carry law. In the last three weeks we have had two road rage shootings. Both times it was the innocent by-stander that got hit. Now, we have had a third incident and this time it was a toddler who was left on life support.
I support the right to own arms, but in this day and age, the right to carry just seems like an accident waiting to happen. We are more angry and less tolerant than anytime that I can remember. The three incidents of road rage shootings in the Kansas City area seem to have involved angry people who lost their cool.
The funny thing is that most of those people pack'n arms are true blue Democrats. No offense to the blue-collar crowd, but those true blue Democrats are more Republican than many Republicans that I know.
Another example of the hypocrisy that is bringing this country down.
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Post by 101ABN on Oct 15, 2005 21:01:14 GMT -8
Well, I was hoping to take the now shotty to the range today but I had to take care of some "honeydews" and never quite got there.
If I don't go riding tomorrow, maybe I'll go bust a few caps and see how she patterns with 00 and #4 Buck.
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Post by tits on Oct 16, 2005 12:15:36 GMT -8
Well, I was hoping to take the now shotty to the range today but I had to take care of some "honeydews" and never quite got there. If I don't go riding tomorrow, maybe I'll go bust a few caps and see how she patterns with 00 and #4 Buck. on a stop sign! ;D You know, so often I've noticed there is farm house in the line of fire just beyond the tree line behind the road sign. Those city yahoos who buy a big gun and start shooting when they get out of town. I am sure professional shooters, hunters, and NRA members would like to box some ears. Those yahoos make gun ownership look bad for all of us. Say, I've been looking for a Civil War rifle. Any suggestions?
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Post by 101ABN on Oct 16, 2005 15:36:09 GMT -8
"Say, I've been looking for a Civil War rifle. Any suggestions?"
Are you looking for an antique or a modern made replica for shooting or re-enacting?
Are you looking for a rifled musket like the Springfield, or an early breech-loader like the Sharps?
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Post by tits on Oct 16, 2005 17:49:55 GMT -8
"Say, I've been looking for a Civil War rifle. Any suggestions?" Are you looking for an antique or a modern made replica for shooting or re-enacting? Are you looking for a rifled musket like the Springfield, or an early breech-loader like the Sharps? Antique would be nice. I did see a replica 1863 Springfield 57 cal rifle at Bass Pro Shop a couple of years ago. I looked good, but I have never fired a black powder weapon. But what I really want is a real 1860s weapon. I had heard on the History Channel once that a warehouse of several thousand rifles was found in 1970s.
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Post by Remey688 on Oct 23, 2005 5:46:08 GMT -8
Here in the Show-Me-State, we have the right to carry law. In the last three weeks we have had two road rage shootings. Both times it was the innocent by-stander that got hit. Now, we have had a third incident and this time it was a toddler who was left on life support. I support the right to own arms, but in this day and age, the right to carry just seems like an accident waiting to happen. We are more angry and less tolerant than anytime that I can remember. The three incidents of road rage shootings in the Kansas City area seem to have involved angry people who lost their cool. The funny thing is that most of those people pack'n arms are true blue Democrats. No offense to the blue-collar crowd, but those true blue Democrats are more Republican than many Republicans that I know. Another example of the hypocrisy that is bringing this country down. This is a problem for many states like Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas and many others. A rifle and or handgun comes in handy out in rural range county more frequently than most people would be aware.
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Post by talkswithbeagles on Nov 2, 2005 19:14:16 GMT -8
It is my understanding that states that have recently passed "right to carry" laws have experienced a decrease in violent crime. This might be a coincidence, except that the cities with the highest crime rates are the ones with the most restrictive gun laws; New York being the example which comes to mind. Michigan passed a right to carry law a year or two ago, but I have not heard if it has affected crime rates or not. At least we have not become a "Dodge City", like the law's opponents predicted.
Everything that I have read or heard about antique firearms says that it is not a good idea to fire them. Some of them were not made to the exacting standards of today, and steel tends to weaken after a hundred years or so. It's fine to own these guns as collectibles, but if you want something to shoot, buy a replica.
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Post by Remey688 on Nov 3, 2005 7:23:38 GMT -8
It is my understanding that states that have recently passed "right to carry" laws have experienced a decrease in violent crime. This might be a coincidence, except that the cities with the highest crime rates are the ones with the most restrictive gun laws; New York being the example which comes to mind. Michigan passed a right to carry law a year or two ago, but I have not heard if it has affected crime rates or not. At least we have not become a "Dodge City", like the law's opponents predicted. Everything that I have read or heard about antique firearms says that it is not a good idea to fire them. Some of them were not made to the exacting standards of today, and steel tends to weaken after a hundred years or so. It's fine to own these guns as collectibles, but if you want something to shoot, buy a replica. Dodge City, Liberal-Garden City and Ulysses in Kansas populated areas north of the Oklahoma Panhandle are examples of places where every home has fire arms by county ordinance. This area is one of the lowest crime areas statistical in the country.
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Post by talkswithbeagles on Nov 3, 2005 17:59:45 GMT -8
Sorry about that. I was refering to the legendary Dodge City of movie and T.V. fame. Come to think of it, I haven't heard anything about it since Matt Dillon cleaned it up back in the 1960s. I'm sure it's a very nice place by now, and I'm sorry if I offended anybody who lives there. When Michigan was debating its right to carry law, some of the antis predicted that, if it passed, Michiganders would be "shooting it out in the streets like Dodge City". I'm sure they meant the old Dodge City, not the new Dodge City. They were wrong either way, because Michigan is still Michigan.
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Post by Remey688 on Nov 4, 2005 2:45:39 GMT -8
No offense. "I was pulling your leg!"
In states with large rural areas, the open carry law, and county ordinance that requires every household to be armed, works! Folks living on a ranch need rifles for livestock protection. Most young guys can fire a 22 rifle with accuracy by 10 years old.
Many counties like this have zero crime statistics months on end.
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Post by tits on Nov 4, 2005 16:27:44 GMT -8
No offense. "I was pulling your leg!" In states with large rural areas, the open carry law, and county ordinance that requires every household to be armed, works! Folks living on a ranch need rifles for livestock protection. Most young guys can fire a 22 rifle with accuracy by 10 years old. Many counties like this have zero crime statistics months on end. ... got me into a lot of trouble. Back in 62 or 63 my cousin and I were attempting to shoot ears of corn off the stalks at our Grandpa's, he was an old German. We'd take aim, you'd hear the pop of the rifle and then the sound of the round snapping through the stand of corn. The autumn flood had forced Grandpa to leave about three acres. Anyway, I took aim, shot, heard the snapping of the round passing through the field followed by this horrifying moooooooooo-hhhhaaaaaawwwww. The kind of sound a cow makes when it has been shot in the rump. We ran home, hid the rifle, and pretended like nothing ever happened. The following Saturday, I happen to be helping Grandpa with some chores, when he turned, and right in front of Dad asked in his German-English: "David do you know who'd been shoot'n mine cows?" ;D By the time the long rifle round had passed through a dozen stalks of corn, it barely broke the skin.
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Post by Sailor on Nov 17, 2005 18:37:56 GMT -8
"By the time the long rifle round had passed through a dozen stalks of corn, it barely broke the skin." Did the switch break more?
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Post by sgt0311usmc on Mar 31, 2006 18:20:18 GMT -8
for your 870
Shotgun news has a BIG advert (2-5 pages) from a place in Illinois (Poss naperville, IL). If you look there, they have the basic stuff to upgrade the 870, including the ORIGINAL Rem top-folding pistol-grip stock. (Also called the "Embassy" or "Executive Protection" stock - because - it's what we use). Some people like other stocks, I LOVE this one. Simple, works every time - only cost $89 (when I got mine). They also have the Rem extension tube sets. My recommendation (2 cents) for IN-HOME for that would be the #4 buck - will do the job, shouldn't (over-)penetrate drywall.
NOTE: The stock is marked "For police & military use only" on the side rails. A couple of former cops I worked with went on about how, "You can't own one of those ... look, it even says, for police or military use only on it". I had a simple reply - A) Pistol-grip folding stocks WERE in-fact legal, RIGHT? (Answer - "YES, just not these ones"); B) You guys were cops; Have you ever seen a law prohibitting "Remington PGFS's"? (Answer - "No"); C) This is a private EP company - do we have police powers? (Answer - No) D) I take a sheet of paper & write on it: "For Police or Military Use Only", pass it over & ask "So that piece of paper can now only be used by Police or the military, Right"?
ANSWER - OK, OK - You've made your point, Ya DICK! ;D
Of course, re-check your Calipornia statutes before converting.
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Post by 101ABN on Mar 31, 2006 19:07:51 GMT -8
Yeah Sarge, I looked at the Remington folder but opted for the Knoxx Copstock- quck to deploy (or fire from the folded position) and it reduces the felt recoil from hi-brass buck significantly. You can see the pics on another thread here. rexbo47.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=arms&action=display&thread=1131154049With 7 rounds, I can load the first ones with #4 and the last with #00. The reality is, if someone gets in the house it'll be really close quarters so I'd probably engage with the Glock 23 and use the 12-bore on the perimeter.
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