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Post by Far Rider on May 30, 2006 16:52:49 GMT -8
On O'Reilly tonight a an illegal alien is seen pointing a pistol at a member of the Yuma Patriots in a video clip. The Patriots are a group apparently inspired by the minutemen.
Too bad the cameraman didn't have a rifle.
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Post by Sailor on May 30, 2006 18:16:15 GMT -8
On O'Reilly tonight a an illegal alien is seen pointing a pistol at a member of the Yuma Patriots in a video clip. The Patriots are a group apparently inspired by the minutemen. Too bad the cameraman didn't have a rifle. Are you kidding Mike? If that cameraman had had a rifle or even a handgun of his own and used it, it would have been because this obvious rightwing conservative racist vigilante was out to kill innocent immigrants who were only going about their own business.  Is that about right Cam? |
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Post by cameron on May 30, 2006 18:44:26 GMT -8
On O'Reilly tonight a an illegal alien is seen pointing a pistol at a member of the Yuma Patriots in a video clip. The Patriots are a group apparently inspired by the minutemen. Too bad the cameraman didn't have a rifle. Are you kidding Mike? If that cameraman had had a rifle or even a handgun of his own and used it, it would have been because this obvious rightwing conservative racist vigilante was out to kill innocent immigrants who were only going about their own business. Is that about right Cam? If the guy had shot the illegal in self defense then I would have supported the guy. You really want civilians shooting people crossing the border? How well do you think that would play in the press and do you really think you would have public support? |
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Post by jfree on May 30, 2006 19:29:32 GMT -8
The point he was trying to make was that even if he had shot him in self defense the leftist moonbats would be crying foul. This group was started by a man whose son was robbed of his car and money at gunpoint by illegals, the son had just returned home from Iraq. They also discussed how Yuma is being over run, crops are being stolen as are cars and they are in danger from illegals w/guns. But I suppose we should just take, they are after all just looking for a better life...  |
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Post by cameron on May 30, 2006 19:33:42 GMT -8
The point he was trying to make was that even if he had shot him in self defense the leftist moonbats would be crying foul. This group was started by a man whose son was robbed of his car and money at gunpoint by illegals, the son had just returned home from Iraq. They also discussed how Yuma is being over run, crops are being stolen as are cars and they are in danger from illegals w/guns. But I suppose we should just take, they are after all just looking for a better life... It wouldn't be just leftest moonbats that would be crying foul. |
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Post by Far Rider on May 31, 2006 1:32:14 GMT -8
On O'Reilly tonight a an illegal alien is seen pointing a pistol at a member of the Yuma Patriots in a video clip. The Patriots are a group apparently inspired by the minutemen. Too bad the cameraman didn't have a rifle. Are you kidding Mike? If that cameraman had had a rifle or even a handgun of his own and used it, it would have been because this obvious rightwing conservative racist vigilante was out to kill innocent immigrants who were only going about their own business. Is that about right Cam? "When a man with a rifle meets a man with a pistol, the man with the pistol will die." |
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Post by Sailor on May 31, 2006 10:50:05 GMT -8
"The point he was trying to make was that even if he had shot him in self defense the leftist moonbats would be crying foul."
Precisely. I'm glad someone gets it.
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Post by Sailor on May 31, 2006 10:55:38 GMT -8
Are you kidding Mike? If that cameraman had had a rifle or even a handgun of his own and used it, it would have been because this obvious rightwing conservative racist vigilante was out to kill innocent immigrants who were only going about their own business. Is that about right Cam? "When a man with a rifle meets a man with a pistol, the man with the pistol will die." Unless the man with the pistol is Clint Eastwood.  Seriously though, they don't tell us how far the two were from each other. At close range the guy with the pistol has the advantage of speed and surprise, at 50 meters or so MY MONEY is on the guy with the long gun. |
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Post by peterd on May 31, 2006 11:49:46 GMT -8
I fear that situation at the southern border may possibly turn violent. We already had incidentcies where even Mexican army fired at our border patrols. We know that some of the "coyotes" are armed. It may not take long, and we may see the first casualty. Once that happen, some illegals may get shot crossing the border. I don't believe that police will be able to stop it. I wonder what the politicans will do, when that happens. They will try to blame everything on Minutemen just to make Mr. Fox happy camper.
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Post by MARIO on May 31, 2006 12:00:25 GMT -8
Are you kidding Mike? If that cameraman had had a rifle or even a handgun of his own and used it, it would have been because this obvious rightwing conservative racist vigilante was out to kill innocent immigrants who were only going about their own business. Is that about right Cam? If the guy had shot the illegal in self defense then I would have supported the guy. You really want civilians shooting people crossing the border? How well do you think that would play in the press and do you really think you would have public support? Let's put it in simple terms. If an armed robber trespasses on your property or invades your home, pointing a gun at you -- What do you do? You have a gun as well. Do you wait to see if he's going to shoot you, or do you take him out first? |
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Post by Far Rider on May 31, 2006 12:07:22 GMT -8
"When a man with a rifle meets a man with a pistol, the man with the pistol will die." Unless the man with the pistol is Clint Eastwood. Seriously though, they don't tell us how far the two were from each other. At close range the guy with the pistol has the advantage of speed and surprise, at 50 meters or so MY MONEY is on the guy with the long gun. Well, I have always been of the Quigley school of thought when it comes to handguns - "Well, sir, I never had much use for one." And trust me I have owned a group of them and even own two now. But whenever possible I'll take the long gun over the hand gun any day. We have two short shotguns strategically placed in the house now as burglar discouragers.
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Post by cameron on May 31, 2006 12:44:10 GMT -8
If the guy had shot the illegal in self defense then I would have supported the guy. You really want civilians shooting people crossing the border? How well do you think that would play in the press and do you really think you would have public support? Let's put it in simple terms. If an armed robber trespasses on your property or invades your home, pointing a gun at you -- What do you do? You have a gun as well. Do you wait to see if he's going to shoot you, or do you take him out first? Mario time for a reality check, didn't I just say I would support him? What you fail to recognize is just how big a propaganda coo you would be handing to those opposed to your policy proscriptions. The worst possible thing that could happen from your perspective, would be for a civilian to kill a Mexican crossing the border. That is just reality Mario something you in the anti-reasonable-solutions crowd seem to have a real hard time coming to grips with. Was that simple enough for you, or do I need to break out the crayons? |
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Post by peterd on May 31, 2006 13:08:48 GMT -8
Mario, thats easy. Those who would come here today will be found here tomorrow. They would only point their weapon once and last time.
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Post by 101ABN on May 31, 2006 15:45:13 GMT -8
"If an armed robber trespasses on your property or invades your home, pointing a gun at you -- What do you do? You have a gun as well. Do you wait to see if he's going to shoot you, or do you take him out first?"
Drop him where he stands.
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Post by sneegro9783 on May 31, 2006 15:57:00 GMT -8
Drop him where he stands. i second that |
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