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Post by americanpride on Mar 16, 2005 10:51:58 GMT -8
I think we are all forgetting one very important variable: The involvement of prominent fascist homosexuals in the USG.
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Post by MARIO on Mar 16, 2005 11:01:12 GMT -8
Then why the 50 years sealed files? Why not released it now while people who rememer that day are still alive? Good question; I guess we'll find out when the time comes. But if the Warren Commission could find even the remotest hint of a conspiracy, it would have said so. Take care, Remey.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Mar 16, 2005 16:31:20 GMT -8
All I'm saying us that it doesn't hurt to keep asking questions. I just can't bring myself to believe that Oswald acted alone. Questions don't hurt at all. In fact every question should be asked in a situation where the President is assasinated, but I believe a lot of the conspiracy theories got most of their creadence because of in-ept police work by Dallas. They never had a recording or even notes from the Oswald interrogation shortly after he was arrested. Than of course Jack Ruby showed up and that was it for any questions to Oswald.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Mar 16, 2005 16:35:40 GMT -8
Then why the 50 years sealed files? Why not released it now while people who rememer that day are still alive? Good question, The initial response would probably have something to do with the Cold war. Why they aren't releasing them now is strange to me.
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Post by Remey688 on Mar 17, 2005 2:31:51 GMT -8
Good question, The initial response would probably have something to do with the Cold war. Why they aren't releasing them now is strange to me. I vote for LBJ in the poll. I was a young 20 when JKF died. Oswald was a shooter or aided a shooter entering the Texas Book Depository. That is a given! However too much suspicion surounds too many events relative to the assination, and the aftermath. We know evidence has been surpressed until 2014. Controversy has continued to today from the release of the Warren Report. The most supicious element of the Warren eport was that there were other Super8 and 8mm films in the government's hands that have never been released.The existenced of other still pictures and two or three other known films was never denigned by Washington?! One of the biggest bomb question at the time of the Warren Report release was "why the film with the the most important frames hidden by a traffic sign follow with the 'Magic Bullet Theory'?" That had a carnival like effect on the government's story in the era. It has always been my opinion 2014 will afford researchers an opportunity to rewrite history.
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Post by packer on Mar 26, 2005 18:01:46 GMT -8
It's a real stretch to believe that Oswald acting alone could have pulled it off. Even based only on the physical limitations and the marksmenship that he would have to have had.
Toss in all the crap that happened afterward (Ruby, etc) and it becomes even more questionable.
But to me the one glaring thing that never seems to even get a mention is that Oswald denied any involvement until the very moment of his death. Yet he has been virtually convicted in absentia and I wonder why the proof (if any) of his involvement or doing the actual shooting is mostly missing?
I guess that "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't apply to all cases--just to certain wealthy assholes or those of celebrity.
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Post by packer on Mar 26, 2005 18:06:06 GMT -8
Actually BB, your list of possible suspects leaves off the group that probably hated JFK the most and who had the most reasons to want him dead. Plus, they had the wherwithal and the "expertise" to get it done! You know who I mean, I'm sure.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Mar 26, 2005 19:54:52 GMT -8
It's a real stretch to believe that Oswald acting alone could have pulled it off. Even based only on the physical limitations and the marksmenship that he would have to have had. Toss in all the crap that happened afterward (Ruby, etc) and it becomes even more questionable. But to me the one glaring thing that never seems to even get a mention is that Oswald denied any involvement until the very moment of his death. Yet he has been virtually convicted in absentia and I wonder why the proof (if any) of his involvement or doing the actual shooting is mostly missing? I guess that "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't apply to all cases--just to certain wealthy assholes or those of celebrity. I believe Oswald's prints were found on the gun. That alone makes it difficult to prove him innocent. As far as marksmenship, Oswald was considered to be a good shooter when he was with the Marines. Scored real high on a average basis so the difficulty of the shot shouldn't have fazed him that much.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Mar 26, 2005 19:58:17 GMT -8
Actually BB, your list of possible suspects leaves off the group that probably hated JFK the most and who had the most reasons to want him dead. Plus, they had the wherwithal and the "expertise" to get it done! You know who I mean, I'm sure. Well color me stupid cuz nobody stands out to me. Let me take a stabbing guess at who your refering to. I'd say either the KKK, or certain angry persons in our military. Did I come close?
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Post by MARIO on Mar 26, 2005 20:22:04 GMT -8
Well color me stupid cuz nobody stands out to me. Let me take a stabbing guess at who your refering to. I'd say either the KKK, or certain angry persons in our military. Did I come close? I think our old liberal friend, Packer, is referring to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the military bigwigs.
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Post by MARIO on Mar 26, 2005 20:23:53 GMT -8
It's a real stretch to believe that Oswald acting alone could have pulled it off. Even based only on the physical limitations and the marksmenship that he would have to have had. Toss in all the crap that happened afterward (Ruby, etc) and it becomes even more questionable. But to me the one glaring thing that never seems to even get a mention is that Oswald denied any involvement until the very moment of his death. Yet he has been virtually convicted in absentia and I wonder why the proof (if any) of his involvement or doing the actual shooting is mostly missing? I guess that "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't apply to all cases--just to certain wealthy assholes or those of celebrity. There was a great documentary narrated by Peter Jennings on the assassination. It was very convincing and pointed to Oswald being the sole assassin. It also addressed the matter of Jack Ruby, Oswald's marksmenship (which was exceptional), Oswald's admiration for Communism, etc.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Mar 26, 2005 20:35:50 GMT -8
I think our old liberal friend, Packer, is referring to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the military bigwigs. I thought he might have been refering to them, but that just seemed too crazy for me.
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Post by packer on Mar 26, 2005 20:44:00 GMT -8
Mario and BB, per possible culprits in wanting JFK dead:
Don't you guys even pay attention to what was going on back then? I was referring to organized crime and the mafia.
Do some research on the connections between them and JFK/RFK. The mob figured it had at least helped (if not caused) JFK to get elected and that the Kennedy's then double crossed them with some of the Cuba shit but mostly when the Kennedy's had the FBI make organized crime their number one priority.
And if you think the mob let's shit like that slip by, I can give you a list of dead guys in Chicago that will tell you otherwise!
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Post by packer on Mar 26, 2005 20:49:19 GMT -8
Mario, you do sometimes come up with the goofiest, off-the-wall shit that makes no sense and has no basis. I think our old liberal friend, Packer, is referring to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the military bigwigs.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Mar 26, 2005 20:54:48 GMT -8
Mario and BB, per possible culprits in wanting JFK dead: Don't you guys even pay attention to what was going on back then? I was referring to organized crime and the mafia. Do some research on the connections between them and JFK/RFK. The mob figured it had at least helped (if not caused) JFK to get elected and that the Kennedy's then double crossed them with some of the Cuba shit but mostly when the Kennedy's had the FBI make organized crime their number one priority. And if you think the mob let's shit like that slip by, I can give you a list of dead guys in Chicago that will tell you otherwise! JFK would have been too big a target don't you think? Killing him would have only led to their demise.
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