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Post by MARIO on Jul 22, 2005 17:40:23 GMT -8
I have no idea WHO killed kennedy bb, but it seems obvious a conspiracy occured. Also, it WAS common procedure, kennedy wasn't the FIRST president to get shot. -Oh, stop it, you idiot. It was not common procedure in the early 60's. Kenney's motorcade passed how many buildings? They were not all searched. Do you think the people in the streets were searched? No. That is why the Secret Service considered driving in an open car an unwarranted risk. But Kennedy insisted. And, while a conspiracy is surely possible, the evidence I've seen and heard points to the contrary. Stop watching Oliver Stone movies. |
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Post by stratagosv on Jul 23, 2005 14:48:06 GMT -8
Look, just by calling me an idiot and then saying that it wasn't common procedure doesn't make me an idiot and WON'T make you right there buddy. Why don't you write the SS a letter and ask them?
Your idea of proof is: Call the other person an idiot (now you can ignore what the person REALLY said) and then restate your idea without any proof (because the other guys an idiot) and then in your little head you've proved your point.
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Post by dustdevil28 on Jul 23, 2005 15:12:02 GMT -8
Look, just by calling me an idiot and then saying that it wasn't common procedure doesn't make me an idiot and WON'T make you right there buddy. Why don't you write the SS a letter and ask them? Your idea of proof is: Call the other person an idiot (now you can ignore what the person REALLY said) and then restate your idea without any proof (because the other guys an idiot) and then in your little head you've proved your point. Just think about it for a second Strat. Think about the manpower it would take to check each building to assure that they were clear for the President, and then remember that Oswald was a employee at the book depository and could've stashed that gun in one of a million places and still got his position. Just that alone destroys any argument about buildings being searched. |
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Post by stratagosv on Jul 23, 2005 15:19:27 GMT -8
SS usually goes days or weeks in advance to search buildings, they look for good firing positions where a sniper may have a good shot. Also, they set up their own snipers and keep watch from buildings. It wasn't as if no one heard of a president getting shot, especially since kennedy wasn't particularly loved where he was.
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Post by MARIO on Jul 23, 2005 16:13:12 GMT -8
Look, just by calling me an idiot and then saying that it wasn't common procedure doesn't make me an idiot and WON'T make you right there buddy. Why don't you write the SS a letter and ask them? Your idea of proof is: Call the other person an idiot (now you can ignore what the person REALLY said) and then restate your idea without any proof (because the other guys an idiot) and then in your little head you've proved your point. -Got you beat there, lefty. My friend's brother is a Secret Service agent. A couple months ago I had him look up for me who the first President to put up a Christmas tree in the White House was.  He looked it up for me and said that the buildings at the site of Kennedy's speech earlier that morning were searched and there were snipers on some rooftops. Buildings on the motorcade route were not searched, with the exception of a few. The President was not going to access these buildings. The people in the crowds were not searched. However, police were in and out of some buildings on the motorcade route -- just to check things out. So get a clue. |
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Post by stratagosv on Jul 23, 2005 16:41:30 GMT -8
SUUUURRREEE You're "friend's" "brother's" Half "sister's" know's someone who once met a guy in a bar who... whatever.
But... let's say you AREN'T talking out of your ass: Kennedy's speach earlier they searched buildings, and their were snipers, well of course, as their should have been
buildings on the motorcare route were not searched: That's what I've been saying you dope! They don't ONLY search buildings the president will go into you moron! Like I said before they look for good sniping positions, so you tell me where were the snipers along the route? You obviously couldn't search EVERYONE along the route, what's your point?
What the hell was the point of your post?
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Post by MARIO on Jul 23, 2005 18:19:01 GMT -8
SUUUURRREEE You're "friend's" "brother's" Half "sister's" know's someone who once met a guy in a bar who... whatever. But... let's say you AREN'T talking out of your ass: Kennedy's speach earlier they searched buildings, and their were snipers, well of course, as their should have been buildings on the motorcare route were not searched: That's what I've been saying you dope! They don't ONLY search buildings the president will go into you moron! Like I said before they look for good sniping positions, so you tell me where were the snipers along the route? You obviously couldn't search EVERYONE along the route, what's your point? What the hell was the point of your post? What the fuck?? My friend's brother is in the Secret Service and does work in counterfeiting! He even worked security here in NY when the Republican convention was here last year. You idiot. "speech" "there" "motorcade" WHAT KIND OF FUCKING MORON ARE YOU?? I've been telling you that buildings were not searched on the motorcade route. Neither were people in the crowds. Before the motorcade, the President gave a speech earlier that morning. You really are a DUMB SHIT! |
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Post by stratagosv on Jul 23, 2005 19:42:12 GMT -8
Sure he does, I believe you. Why not? I always believe random people who talk out of their ass on internet forums...
Now I told YOU not only is it common SENSE to search buildings but common procedure as well, why don't you ask your friends cousins uncle about it? I ALSO told you no shit the crowd wasn't searched. So, what the FUCK is your FUCKING point?
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Post by Remey688 on Jul 24, 2005 14:33:06 GMT -8
I have two unanswered questions A) Why was the Zumbrutter (sp) Super8 released rather and one of the others that didn't have the traffic sign take out everything important about the footage of JFK being struck with the fatal bullet? Secondly why a 50 year wait before the evidence of the investigation records can be opened for public scruitiny??
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Post by tits on Jul 24, 2005 20:41:36 GMT -8
I have two unanswered questions A) Why was the Zumbrutter (sp) Super8 released rather and one of the others that didn't have the traffic sign take out everything important about the footage of JFK being struck with the fatal bullet? Secondly why a 50 year wait before the evidence of the investigation records can be opened for public scruitiny?? So those in power here and abroad could slip away quietly? |
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Post by dustdevil28 on Jul 24, 2005 22:39:19 GMT -8
SS usually goes days or weeks in advance to search buildings, they look for good firing positions where a sniper may have a good shot. Also, they set up their own snipers and keep watch from buildings. It wasn't as if no one heard of a president getting shot, especially since kennedy wasn't particularly loved where he was. Your post still doesn't address the fact that Oswald was working at the depository. Do you find it so far fetched that he could've pulled it off regardless of whether there was a search or not? |
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Post by dustdevil28 on Jul 24, 2005 22:41:19 GMT -8
I have two unanswered questions A) Why was the Zumbrutter (sp) Super8 released rather and one of the others that didn't have the traffic sign take out everything important about the footage of JFK being struck with the fatal bullet? Secondly why a 50 year wait before the evidence of the investigation records can be opened for public scruitiny?? I thought the Zeprudder film showed the fatal head shot and only if it had kept rolling and scaned to the right oh so slightly we would've gotten a good look at the grassy knol. The 50 year wait? I think the idea was to ensure that all persons involved would be deceased and possibly embarrasing info would not damage public persona. |
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Post by stratagosv on Jul 24, 2005 22:43:03 GMT -8
How has to be embarrassed about what?
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Post by Remey688 on Jul 25, 2005 14:54:49 GMT -8
Everyone alive and over the age of 8 the day JFK was assassination remembers where they were when the anouncement was made on radio and TV. I was in Storrs, Connecticut.
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Post by jaber1 on Aug 27, 2005 12:02:53 GMT -8
I voted for "Other".
I did not vote for LBJ because he obviously did not pull the trigger, but I believe that he was involved in what Mr X in Stone's movie called a 'Coup D'etat' under pressure [and likely more than just a little personal desire] from the military-industrial complex for an expansion in Vietnam that Kennedy was going to close down.
The M-IC were involved in the coup per se, merely the carrot danglers for LBJ to 'come through' for them - which he did.
I believed Oswald when I heard him say "I'm just the patsy."
I also know that a bullet does not do a U-turn. The kill shot - from JFK's front-right to back-left - could not possibly have come from the Book Repository.
I'll pay anyone who can repeat that shot from the TBR into a dummy sitting in exactly the same position as JFK in a car at the exact same location, such that it exactly matches the Zapruder film, $1-billion. I'll even even spot the shooter a car that is not moving.
Unfortunately, I understand we would not be able to match the results against JFK's brain which 'disappeared'.
I believe the Warren Commission was given whatever anyone knew, or thought they knew, and none of it was pertinent any more than what is hidden away until 2014 [or whenever it gets released] because nobody - except LBJ and the hit team - had anything pertinent to contribute and they had the perfect alibi.
No more than four [maybe even only three] people needed to know anything about the hit - and at the end only two [the hit team] knew exactly where and when.
To me, The only agency that could successfully pull that off without requiring involvement of a herd of other people hazarding a 'leak' was the Secret Service - and no more than two of them were needed.
The four? LBJ; the hit team and [possibly] the originator of the "stand down" orders.
If one of the hit team originated the stand down orders by impersonating someone else over the phone, that brings it to three.
Had Kennedy used the bubble that day the shoot would have been postponed.
I don't care what, if anything, comes out from 'Classified' in 2014 - it won't be worth the paper it is written on in terms of the "truth" of what happened.
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