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Post by 101ABN on May 13, 2007 16:42:40 GMT -8
It's entertaining.
You said so yourself,
That's all it needs to be.
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Post by FightingFalcon on May 13, 2007 17:41:05 GMT -8
Eh...it was OK. As a Classicist I just couldn't get past the glaring historical inaccuracies. But I feel that way with a lot of historical movies.
Definitely entertaining but just don't believe its history.
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Post by dustdevil28 on May 13, 2007 18:40:13 GMT -8
If we're going to indulge in propaganda, which even the film-maker admits it to be, then we ought to indulge in it fully. If not, then let us watch quality films worthy of our time. umm, you were forced to watch this movie? The previews never made me believe that this film would be close to accurate when I went to see it. I went thinking I'd see a okay film and was happy to see a better film. Way off the truth, but very entertaining. |
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Post by AmericanPride on May 14, 2007 8:58:34 GMT -8
Forced to watch the movie? No. But when the other choice is say, Blades of Glory, a few glaring observations become apparent.
Conservatives say America's moral fiber is weakening. That American culture is undersiege, unproductive, and unfulfilling. That despite their best efforts, the face of America is becoming the face of Gorgon. And I don't disagree. But this obsession with "entertainment" is not some new, historical development, or isolated from the greater trends guiding the course of American life, particularly the trends of the media.
Hollywood produces junk movies because Americans pay for it. Writers publish junk literature becomes Americans will read it, or least the ones that can. The news overwhelms us with junk reports because that's what we'll watch. Film, literature, and all of these things have been consumed by our obsession with entertainment. And what's entertainment? Distraction. Distraction from reality, so you don't have to think, only observe. And what is a better form of propaganda that not only grabs your attention, but attracts you so much that you are willing to pay for it?
What's even more frightening is that no government or tyrant is forcing us into this complacency; we're doing it to ourselves.
So --- if you want entertainment and propaganda, you ought to have it fully, and surrender all you hold dear and valued now, because in due course and fashion, it will happen.
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Post by dustdevil28 on May 14, 2007 9:37:54 GMT -8
Dude, it's a movie and only a movie.
You left out a few options. Don't go to the movies, Go to a Bar, go out with your friends, any number of other options.
I agree that our society is obsessed with entertainment, I wish it wasn't so, but it is and yes you can see the effects in the daily news (I don't give a crap about Paris and Anna Nicole), but enjoying a entertaining movie is hardly contributing to this cause.
Tell me something, did you like movies like Braveheart, Kingdom, and Troy? Nobody goes to those things and takes them as gospel truths. In the best cases they spark a persons curiosity to learn about that period and that person is better for it, at worst some people do swallow everything they see. I don't care about these people because their idiots who probably couldn't be helped anyway.
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Post by AmericanPride on May 14, 2007 9:45:37 GMT -8
It's not "only a movie". That implies the movie exists independently of the causes of its creation, the decision of people to watch it, and a whole host of other variables, such as the personal aspirations and beliefs of the writers and directors. Now, to the average person, of course "it's only a movie"; it's taken on face value without understanding the complex factors that led to its development. Among these factors is, as you admit, America's obsession with entertainment.
And while only you spend ten dollars and two hours doing nothing, producing nothing, and thinking about nothing, the culminative cost of "entertainment" is substantial.
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Post by MARIO on May 14, 2007 11:04:46 GMT -8
And while only you spend ten dollars and two hours doing nothing, producing nothing, and thinking about nothing, the culminative cost of "entertainment" is substantial.
LOL
I'm hoping you didn't spend money on Spiderman 3, Chris.
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Post by FightingFalcon on May 14, 2007 13:06:26 GMT -8
And while only you spend ten dollars and two hours doing nothing, producing nothing, and thinking about nothing, the culminative cost of "entertainment" is substantial. LOL I'm hoping you didn't spend money on Spiderman 3, Chris. Please....don't even mention that movie's name in my presence  |
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Post by AmericanPride on May 14, 2007 16:06:22 GMT -8
Rather than focus on the message, Mario, let's focus on the messenger. Great argument skills you've learned.  |
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Post by MARIO on May 14, 2007 17:27:47 GMT -8
Rather than focus on the message, Mario, let's focus on the messenger. Great argument skills you've learned. Umm, Chris, I was joking around with you. I was making fun of the Spiderman 3 movie. Try not to be so serious. |
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Post by MARIO on May 14, 2007 17:29:12 GMT -8
And while only you spend ten dollars and two hours doing nothing, producing nothing, and thinking about nothing, the culminative cost of "entertainment" is substantial. LOL I'm hoping you didn't spend money on Spiderman 3, Chris. Please....don't even mention that movie's name in my presence Haha, WTF happened with that? It's as if they made the movie for a bunch of 5 yr olds. Big disappointment. |
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Post by 101ABN on May 14, 2007 17:43:25 GMT -8
"It's not "only a movie". "
Umm...Yes, it is.
IF you don't want to be entertained, don't.
I spend a shitload of my life being productive. In fact I've probably spent more time being productive that you've spent on the planet. Here's the deal. It's my money and my time, I'll spend either as I choose.
You, on the other hand, are free to become a perfect little automaton.
At some point you'll have to answer a basic existential question, "Am I a human doing or a human being?"
Hope you have the answer.
In the meantime, I'll give just myself permission, at times, to be entertained.
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Post by AmericanPride on May 14, 2007 17:49:13 GMT -8
An automaton. Haha.
There's very few people on this forum that think. And two of them are under the age of twenty-five.
You say "it's only a movie". Ok. Take everything at face value. You're the automaton.
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Post by 101ABN on May 14, 2007 18:09:18 GMT -8
Two of them that are under 25 don't have to think.
They already know it all.
Not very entertaining watching tham on their collision course with reality.
But it is cheaper than a movie.
Keep working on that answer, you never know when the question will be called.
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Post by FightingFalcon on May 14, 2007 18:11:21 GMT -8
Please....don't even mention that movie's name in my presence Haha, WTF happened with that? It's as if they made the movie for a bunch of 5 yr olds. Big disappointment. Not to mention that they took my favorite character (Venom) and treated him like a little bitch  I walked out of that theater wanting to punch babies.... |
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